245
submitted 4 days ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top new old
[-] [email protected] 139 points 4 days ago

Says the dipshit making the tools to commit fraud easier than ever.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago

Yes. He would really like you and the investors to know how good his fraud device is, but you have to promise not to use it to do crimes. Also, if you are afraid of his fraud device he would like to sell you fraud device protection.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago

"Hey guys, watch out for this torment nexus. It could be pretty scary!"

So are you going to stop building it then?

"...No."

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

"Did I mention how powerful my products are? Pleeeaaase don't give me money!"

[-] [email protected] 80 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Voiceprinting as an identification for wealthy bank clients grew popular more than a decade ago, with customers typically asked to utter a challenge phrase into the phone to access their accounts.

ha, I thought it was just a movie trope

sometimes it feels like banks will use literally anything but recommended practices for multi-factor authentication

[-] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago

ha, I thought it was just a movie trope

I wish. My bank has been trying to get me to do that shit for years when I call in.

"YoUr VoIcE iS yOuR pAsSwOrD" - no, my fucking password is my password, and this voice print shit was an obvious security hole from day 1, which is why I always answered that I didn't consent to their bullshit.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

There's no way that the phone network has enough fidelity to be able to accurately transmit your voice anyway. People who sound similar to you will be able to get in.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Exactly. It always seemed like something that would be broken and used as an excuse that it was my fault they didn't secure their shit

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

I argued with my old bank for ages about this and they continued to insist enabling it on my account was a great idea.

The film Sneakers showed the world why voice ID was a massive security hole and an all-around crappy idea back in 1992, and some idiots are still insisting it's a good idea in 2025 when it's only become astronomically easier to beat than Robert Redford and friends demonstrated.

In my case, I've been doing radio, podcasting, and other voice work for a long time and as a result there are hundreds and hundreds of hours of my voice freely available out there. People can cut and paste me saying "my voice is my passport, verify me" or anything else they like together in Audacity, no AI needed, and fool any telephone-based audio security computer on the planet with it. And explaining this in-person to the branch manager of my former bank elicited nothing more than the blankest expression I'd seen since the pet goldfish I had as a kid.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Nope.

Fuck TD. They enabled this horseshit automatically on my account. Surprise, surprise, it didnt work on my voice, even once.

Supposedly they disabled it three times. Guess what else happened? Someone accessed my damn account, because it was their voice linked to my account.

I'll never have a TD account again. Absolute jackasses in terms of account security, that isn't even the only issue I had with them.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

TD Bank, yes.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

When I was complaining about the 10 pieces of paper, each needing a signature and a stamp, just to close one of my bank accounts, the clerk has informed me that some of their procedures has switched to an electronic signature instead. I was pumped! Until he finished the rest of the sentence. By the electronic signature he meant the squigly line, just on a touchscreen.

Some people strive to achieve the pure zen. At that moment I've achieved pure cringe instead.

It's strange though, because that same bank has an excellent API and batch processing available.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

My bank uses that and personal info, and I have to be calling from a registered number.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago

Spoofing cell phone numbers is so easy a literal toddler can do it.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

But can you do it detectably? Because that’s just as easy. This isn’t 95

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Even ISPs do this where I am. You don't have to utter anything specifically but if they detect your voice being drastically different from what they have on file, they'll lock you out before you even talk to a real person. Not sure how I feel about it tbh

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

what the hell does an ISP want with that, that's nuts

[-] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I guess it's mostly for their cell services to avoid SIM jacking and stuff. But I agree

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You'd have to be real ignorant of technology to accept any form of voice or face recognition to gain access to anything - even your phone.

Use a code or a pattern, everyone. This is to protect you from bad cops as much as it is to protect you from bad criminals.

I'm actually really annoyed I can't do two factor on my phone (e.g. Fingerprint + password).

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I had to call into my bank recently and had to listen through what was effectively an ad to sign up for their voice authentication service. All the while I'm thinking, "How dare you implement this crap when you don't even support TOTP or security keys."

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Fortunately mine does both. I use Fidelity as my "bank" mostly because they offer Symantec VIP, which is at least a form of TOTP.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I'm actually really annoyed I can't do two factor

2 Factor 2 Furious

[-] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

Oh he seriously needs to shut up.

He spends his entire time now telling everybody how a product, he is insisting on building, is going to kill us all.

You would have thought that if you were building a doomsday bomb but didn't want to die it'd be pretty easy to just stop building said bomb. But nope everyday he continues making it more and more destructive.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

I mean it's a valid concern. He's also nowhere near the first to voice it. I attended a presentation from a Microsoft exec who explained that Microsoft had already developed very powerful voice mimicking technology, well ahead of anything public at the time. It required only a few seconds of speech before it could fully replicate your voice. But their ethics board or whatever stopped them, due to the massive fraud risks. Nowadays I think they've adapted the tech to voice recognition used in Teams instead.

Of course, MS wasn't the only one working on this and other people have since published these solutions, so the cat's out of the bag now.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

the problem is "he" isn't the only one building AI. If it wasn't openAI it would have been someone else. And soon almost anyone with small business level of resources will be able to have an AI platform at their disposal.

I'm not saying the guy is a paragon of virtue or anything, but a voice from within the industry should be valuable to get legislators on board to do something about it. Not that I have great faith in them either.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

He was the first and he is the only one trying to make open ia for-profit ia. Even fucking Facebook can make their ia model open source. I think is move to legislator is just to put concurrent to disadvantage. The same way he cried when deepseek got out such funny enough won't do nothing since he pushed for a law that literally said that ia can t be legally restrain for 20 year

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

He wants AI to become strictly regulated so no one can catch up to his stagnating bullshit engine.

[-] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This moron is trying to drum up financial panic so he can hawk his stupid human verification device. The Sphere I think ? Or the Orb ? Whatever. It's a fucking camera.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago
  1. Create a problem
  2. Sell a solution
[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah he's invented the webcam, I suppose we merely have to be thankful that it isn't another train.

  1. A solution to your problem already exists and has existed for decades
  2. Create a problem
  3. Create an unnecessary ugly overhyped solution to the problem
[-] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

Yeah this guy wants to sell ai security dongles real bad

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

plug in AI security device

"Initializing security sweep."

"Security scan finished. All databases wiped clean."

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

You missed the part where they lie about dropping the database.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

It is going to be a monkeys paw for the fools who use it.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

How about some Yubikeys or smart cards instead of something that requires me to scan my retina and share it with Sam Altman

[-] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Month later

Oh by the way, just conveniently, we have this new product which can take care of this problem for you.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

Oh no, this tool that EVERY FUCKING ONE said would be very helpful for fraudsters and scammers is going to cause a crisis! WHO COULDA PREDITED IT???????????

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Does anyone actually think he's a genius? He's clearly a moron of the highest degree.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Failing upwards.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I am rich so write what I said.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago

Well well well… if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions…

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

I followed a different post and replaced AI with cocaine, and it still works in this context.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Yes it's rather like Pablo Escobar going "don't do drugs kids".

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I am the system administrator. My voice is my ~~password~~ passport. Verify me.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Been way too long since I played that game. Amusingly, it's not easy to get running on Linux (last time I checked, at least)

[-] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Does anyone by chance have tips for someone wanting to sound like Mark Hamil Joker via AI? No particular reason...

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I find it really fascinating, how these people think everything is a complete non-issue, unless money is involved. The society can fuck itself, but if their bank account is at risk, then it's scorched earth time

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2025
245 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

73233 readers
3232 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS