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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Unfortunately not Open Source: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay/-/blob/master/LICENSE

I'll keep using NewPipe. Their software seems neat, I'll happly pay for it, but no way I'll do if there is licence like that.

Edit: They say the licence is only temporary. Let's keep an eye which one they'll choose later.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Louis explains the license in the video. You can fork it and modify it, but if you fill it up with ads, spyware, malware etc., they fill fuck you.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's their goal. They have good intentions. But it also means no commercial use.

You can't do "Hey, can you add this feature to this app, I'll pay you" or "Here is much improved version you can buy from me" or "We give you paid support and help for this software for your company". Eventually all improvements bounce back to original creators anyway, see: vital paid Wordpress theme ecosystem, most of them being GPL licenced.

With project getting bigger such restriction can be almost as bad as with propietary app. Like, imagine Linux kernel but only with Linus Torvalds having right to sell computers with it or offer any services making money.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I sympathise with his reasoning for the license but still, that sucks.

I think I'll try it anyway, though. It's trying to solve a real issue.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Better revanced = NewPipe

No algorithms, no Google tracking

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

User experience Newpipe is absolute trash

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I personally find LibreTube even better, since it syncs with your Piped account.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

But you cant cast videos to SmartTube with it. So i think Revanced has the better versatility.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah I'd rather not give all my details for multiple sites to one site...regardless of who's doing it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well actually, your login info never goes to them at all. You log into the sites directly in a webview and it uses the cookie to sync your subs and recommendations locally on your device.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You took the words out of my mouth. I don't even know who this guy is really, I've seen some of his videos, but having access to all of your account stuff is... nah

A 300MB apk file? It is on Google Play. No F(L)OSS license. Other apps by the same developer (futo) seem to contain no trackers. Probably nothing to worry about, but how many video platforms does the average person use? I look at YT and a small handful of peertube instances.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You are trying to download the universal app that contains multi archs libraries. Try to download a specific arch for your device like arm v7 or arm v8. That's half the size. The Play Store build is even more optimized at 41mb.

Edit: the version listed on their website has more sources compared to playstore which is bland. I would get the site version if I were you.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The app needs two things: YouTube SponsorBlock, and the ability to tag creators and filter by tag/interest. I'm really hopeful they add those two things, and I'd be a convert.

Oh and an android TV version while you're at it ^^

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Oh and an android TV version while you're at it

It could hardly get better than SmartTubeNext.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I will keep a eye on it but till the license changes I will stick with my tried and true Newpipe and Libretube apps. Both of those are "improved revanced" to me already but the idea of multiple sources is a cool one, not new but certainly cool and I haven't seen Nebula in other attempts but I just wish people could agree on a addon standard to implement services for various of those apps and media centers at once!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can you cast videos to SmartTube/TV?

That's the thing im missing from those apps and it seems its not possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

You can, I do it every week. Just link your TV to your phones YouTube app and cast.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

Brand new alpha video player app already has background play, Floatplane devs in shambles

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Love the aggregation idea! Gonna check back onto it after some months, until then I'm sticking with good ol' Revanced.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Neat idea. I'm going to watch how this develops but I don't see it ever becoming much of a thing until there is iOS support. I'm not an iPhone user. Just realistic.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Third party frontends of all kinds are forbidden on the Play and App store but we Android users have F-Droid and if the license is changed at some point (it's supposed to be temporary as far as I understand) it will probably land there, till then Obtanium is probably your best bet I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Almost no third party frontend supports iOS because of their absolutely shitty sideloading limitations and they still work great...

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Something about Louis just strikes me as extremely untrustworthy. I'm not sure what it is, but it's definitely there.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

everything I've ever seen about the guy is legit. he works for consumer rights, if you want untrustworthy look at Apple.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

New York accent? I've occasionally watched his videos for years, and he seems to be a decent guy. He may be an asshole IRL for all I know, but generally supports stuff like right to repair, privacy, ad-blockers, etc. He's a business owner, so he's pro-business biased when consumers aren't being completely shafted. He's YouTuber, so he likely has narcissistic tendencies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Met him IRL. Super nice, but he's got a hard edge which might put people off.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He might come off as edgy but honestly he's one of the few people I trust online. Dude did amaizing stuff with right to repair stuff too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I use inotia00's version of ReVanced, ReVanced Extended. It adds way more options for fine tuning

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

And if it ever gains much popularity, Youtube will find ways to break its ability to source videos from their platform.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Hmm. It works very well on my old Samsung phone but it crashes immediately on my current 1+ phone. It literally opens directly to the crash dump screen. Lmao. That said, using this on my old phone, it's already extremely well done. Having all of my video sources in one app is a great idea. Hope they fix the current issue so I can use it on my current phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder what's the business model?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Its effectively unlimited trialware, like WinRar. Its provided free and has no payment verification, but if you use it regularly, you're expected to pay the approximately $10 price tag.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

There is an optional "purchase" in app which is interestingly difficult to find.

It doesn't actually effect any functionality but I'm willing to bet it will in future once we're all hooked.

You should try the app it's actually very good

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