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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago

The fuckin Scottish over’ere sidin’ with Anakin all willy nilly

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

TIL the USSR named their space station "peace"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

IIRC it also means "world".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

So... "world peace" is just....? Google returns a phrase that it translates back into "peace in everything," but the word does repeat in that phrase. I'm sure it's a contextual thing and I know some things just don't carry over between languages, but now I'm interested in how Russian works.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

That would be мир во всем мире, literally peace in all the world

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've also heard миру мир: "peace to the world".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I see it more often

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The whole point was to get past the Cold War and make union between countries. MIR was peace; Americans and Russians working together for all mankind’s scientific progress

Then came politics.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why yes, the name Frederick literally comes from the Germanic words frid (peace) and ric (ruler)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So the guy who conquered Silesia and half of Poland and made Prussia a Great Power was named 'King of Peace'?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Wait, hold on, a fairly accurate map instead of just countries?

Who's the linguistics nerd that wanted to make a point about peace and empathy and the absolutely tragic loss of human life, but couldn't resisit also making a little bit of a point about language diversity? Whoever you are, I see you.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's a lot better than most such maps, but still, there's way too many languages missing in my opinion :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I take little bit of issue having south part of Finland having swedish there.

Edit: ok, the projection is bit funky here, that is not southern Finland (Uusimaa), but south west Finland (Varsinais-Suomi) which is conquered by Swedish Finns

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago

The Finnish word on the map is in the partitive case, the base form is "rauha" with just one "a" at the end.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The Dutch ”vrede” would translate to ”wrath” in Swedish. Just fyi

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

I speak both languages fluently but I never noticed, lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

i'm maltese. they cut us out of the map! We say "paci". pronosonced like "paa-chi"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

All I want is some damn Fred and quiet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like a drunk trying to order a fried egg roll.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

That sounds about right.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (14 children)

"vrede", which means "peace" in Dutch, means "anger" in Danish (probably not pronounced the same way, but the spelling is the same.)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

May Fred be upon you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So that's where the name Fred comes from.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Short for Fredrick, and Rik in Norwegian means rich. So peace, but only if you're rich.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In polish "pokój" also means literally room.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

In serbian "spokojno" means peaceful as in quiet. Other variations are of death though, "pokojnik" is a dead person.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

In russian it means same. I wonder of polish have second word, because pokoy(pokój) is another kind of peace in russian.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I love this type of maps. Need to see more of those.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

The Russian Mir is thought to come from the same proto Indo European root as the English "mild".

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Germanic one looks like Freedom. Is it?

What language family is Pokój? I thought Polish was a Slavic language, but they don't say Mir.

Béke is Uralic? But also Turks use it?

Where is Taika from?

I NEED MORE INFO!!!!!!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Pokój is also Slavic. In Russian related word means something closer to "calmness" and sometimes has overlapping meaning with English "peace". Like "peace" in "peace and quite" for example will be translated with "pokoj", while "mir" in the sense of "peace" means only the opposite of "war".

I assume colors show the original meaning of the word, not the language family.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Edit: whoops, missed your first first question. Yes, fred et al come from Proto-Germanic frithuz, which is constructed from frijaz (free) plus noun suffix -thus.

Well as for the ~~first~~ second one, language families tend to have different roots for the same thing, of which different ones will become preferred in different regions. Both of these words actually work in both Russian and Polish, it is just that one of them is archaic.

As for the ~~second~~ third one, I don't think they're supposed to be the same colour. As far as I know, they are unrelated.

For your ~~third~~ fourth question, no clue. I might look into it someday.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Rauuuuuuuhaaaaa!!!!! Love it.

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