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[–] [email protected] 165 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is so fucked up. Across various social media platforms you have genocidal Zionists loons saying what they want using #KillThemAll, but yet Palestinian voices are being silenced and ol Melon Husk bans the phrase "From the river to the sea...".

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“I’m mad that my side can’t dog whistle for genocide”

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (11 children)

You know that this phrase means the end of illegal occupation, right?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

It’s both. If it didn’t have a plausible legitimate use, it wouldn’t work as a dog whistle.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/09/us/politics/river-to-the-sea-israel-gaza-palestinians.html

Everybody has bad actors, and they serve to complicate what oughtn’t be complicated, including language.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It means different things to different people. There are definitely a few that use it with a genocidal intent. But as you said that he's not it's de facto or historical meaning. It has a much longer history than the last few months. Most people complaining about it only just learned of it. And have no idea about its history or what it actually tends to mean.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't mind them. They probably felt uncomfortable hearing "Black Lives Matter" too. Saying it's a call for genocide for white people.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Is Kibbutz Be’eri on occupied land?

Is Tel Aviv on occupied land?

Is Haifa on occupied land?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In other words, “Death to Israel!!!”

Edit: in before “No no. You have to understand that ‘Death to Israel’ is an aspirational call for peace”

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The people can stay. The borders and government must be dissolved.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (11 children)

So we're Indians wanting to get rid of the British Raj all genocidal maniacs?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Not a great comparison as Brits have Britain to live in already (I'm British, if it matters).

If you displaced the Brits from India back in the day, they could return to Britain.

If you displace the Jews from Israel now, where could they go?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

All the Jewish people in Israel came from other countries though and a very large percentage of the population of Israel maintain dual citizenship. So they can return to the country they are a citizen of, or return to the country there parents or grandparents came from.

Yes, they weren't being treated well in those countries (to put it lightly) but that doesn't make them entitled to someone else's land. He'll the reason most western countries supported creating Israel is because they wanted their Jewish populations to leave.

It would be like unilaterally decided were going to take part of balkans and give it to the Romani people so they have their own country. They are persecuted and don't have a country of their own, so why not?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (12 children)

That's a leap. It means an end to the illegal occupation, apartheid, and Zionism. Give the land back to the indigenous people. I've seen talks of the establishment of a secular state where all can be free, which is the ideal here. Not the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Right…

You just called for the destruction of Israel. You just said Tel Aviv, which was built on land purchased from the Bedouin, is on occupied land.

You just said that Be’eri is on occupied land. Since it’s on occupied land, then Hamas’ murder of 100 people is justified in your mind.

Palestinian policemen massacred non-Zionist Jews in Hebron in 1929. The government of Gaza massacred left-wing Jews in Be’eri in 2023. And you sit here and talk binational bullshit fantasies.

From the river to the sea, you want it to be Judenfrei.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Across various social media platforms you have genocidal

Honestly if you look outside your comforts zone you'll realise every genocidal maniacs have been hanging out on twitter since its creation. After the terror attack in France we had all the insane islamist praising the asshole, that's nothing new

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm not going to twitter to see but are they still using the little blue bird? I thought everything was X now.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They reference Twitter all over their own site. The site is still Twitter.com. Here's their page for advertisers.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Musk fired most of the moderators, and those messages are being sent automatically after a certain time period. I did an experiment before - searched for phrases like "death to nationality" and "kill all nationality", with various nationalities, and reported a dozen each to check if there is any bias: There isn't, all of them were ignored. I believe any moderators left, if there are still any, work by the queue of most reported first, and the top of the queue is most likely filled with brigaded reports from right wing trolls.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

If you don't use specific keywords, there's essentially no moderation on Twitter right now. All of their moderation is via keyword.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

What ? Did you believe there was any safety policies

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twitter has been like this (tools of the IDF) for multiple years now. Welcome to the club.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Literally just came from a thread complaining Twitter was anti semitic lol. https://lemmy.world/post/8558857

Edit - I'm not saying either is true, I don't care about or use Twitter. If it makes you this upset I recommend you do the same.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'll find that right wing lunatics are perfectly capable of being both virulently anti-Semitic and dogmatically pro-Israel, especially when being pro-Israel means either fulfilling some prophecy or other from Revelations, or promoting violence against Muslims. The cognitive dissonance of hating Jews while supporting a Jewish ethnostate is secondary to those other things.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon literally supported a Tweet that said Jews were going to destroy white people.

You know that, right?

Or are you going to claim that isn't antisemitic?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You can probably find a lot of anti semitic stuff on there. Hell Elon was posting some the other day. But that doesn't mean you aren't going to find anti Arab / anti muslim shit, or specifically this pro zionist garbage. Remember, there's a lot of pro zionists who are also white supremacists.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Instructions unclear - applied guidance to people named James Woods with a career in acting, born April 18, 1947.

Aside from Musk's Nazi tendencies, was this fine because Woods didn't specify the target of his call to genocide?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's fine because Musk agrees.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He could have just decided to be a chill dude, retired from acting, maybe opened a golf pro shop with Jeremy Irons. Or I guess there's this approach.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Relax guys he's just a Metallica fan 🤘

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Is this not a crime in the USA? Pretty sure calls to violence is illegal in most countries.

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