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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're not following the plan because everyone else isn't.

They're not because we aren't. See how that works?

How about we do the right thing because it's the right thing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always said that... Canadians are HUGE CO2 emitters, simply because of our geography and climate. We need to put in place a carbon tax that is low, but applies to damn near everything. People who consume more pay more. Invest the tax revenue in things that minimize CO2 emissions - public transit, home efficiency retrofits, subsidized higher standards for building codes, etc. Every year the carbon tax goes up, and every year the benefits get expanded.

I'm not a fucking genius, why can't anyone else do this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, we're huge emitters because the oil industry isn't properly held in check.

Alberta and Saskatchewan on their own are about half of the emissions for the entire country. For actual per person emissions, we're in reality slightly better than China.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We should also halt all oil subsidies as well. I know cheap energy fuels the economy, but we don't have that luxury anymore, and all products from regions that don't ALSO suspend O&G subsidies and levy carbon taxes should have tariffs applied, and those tariffs added to the carbon tax fund.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is there any proof that the oil and gas subsidies make it cheaper?

Price of a liter of gas in
NYC is $1.07 US
Dallas Texas is $0.64
Seattle is $1.29
LA is $1.18

Toronto is $1.08
Calgary is $1.00
Vancouver is $1.31
Halifax is $1.35

London England is $1.88
Berlin is $2.08

Fun fact, Calgary, Vancouver and Seattle should all be the same price. The latter two get product for free from a Canadian government built pipeline, that dates from the 1950s.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Because doing the right thing will cause someone with an obscene amount of money to not get quite as much more.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Death by attrition

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

waiting for the BBQ of the Billionaires to start.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Plan B is that you will be a potential food source for the worlds 2500 billionaires in bunkers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article does not justify why a carbon tax would not work, or at least be an important part of the solution. If we are missing our current targets, what measures can we take to do better? For example, how would increasing the carbon tax by 50% affect our emissions? Despair doesn't get us closer to our goals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The easiest example as to why the carbon tax is stupid:
The carbon tax was introduced in BC under Gordon Campbell's hyper conservative and extreme pro oil government.

If it was ever going to accomplish anything other than looking good and giving the oil and gas industry a tax break, they wouldn't have done it.

The concept of a carbon tax isn't forcing oil and gas companies to do immediate things, it's just them paying the logging industry to plant some trees in a place that was already logged and was going to be replaced and logged again in the future.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There are multiple different ways to tax carbon. The current federal carbon tax does not include rebates for planting trees, so that loophole doesn't exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think Zizek is saying something similar in his last book. It's not about averting catastrophe any more. The catastrophe already happened. We are already in the post-apocalyptic scenario.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

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