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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 year ago (5 children)

All of humanities technological advancements can be summed up in ever more complex ways to boil water

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's why photovoltaics need much more R&D. They are the only true advancement in electricity production since the inception of broadly adopted electrification.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Exactly why we should ditch them. We shall not break tradition. Praise be the turbine

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Anoint me in condensate

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It doesn't rotate to generate electricity? Must be blasphemy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Blessed be the holy turbine, we seek guidance in its rotation. Long may it spin and bring forth a bounteous current.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Also fuel cells.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey we burn things just for heat too.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We heat homes, smelt ore, many industrial things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We heat homes by heating water and putting the hot water through pipes into wall mounted iron tanks so that the water cools down again...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not everyone uses radiators. My system is a forced air furnace.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We heat water molecules in air.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I think to be more general it boils down to just oxidate stuff.

/pun intended

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boil shit, burn shit, and blow shit up. Humans in a nut shell.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Most of the biggest advances in technology is just about moving liquids. Rocket science is really just large scale HVAC.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Oh boy just wait till you hear how fossil fuels work

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

That's just steam power with extra steps!

I've got bad news for ya bruv

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wait till you find out how nuclear fusion makes electricity

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean, how it will in 20 years?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Perpetually so

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's like Musk time. In 20 years it'll only be 20 years away.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Helion's approach is actually different. They are attempting to capture energy directly through induction. I hope it pans out for them, seems like a really interesting approach.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can do it now, just haven't found a way to scale it and make it economical yet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

ITER is doing a great job on that front

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Our entire society* has been based on burning things. Then we progressed to... burning atoms.

(*Exceptions I can think of is solar, wind, hydro.)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then we're leaching off the sun burning atoms.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Solar farms did start out as using the sun to boil water. Basically mirrors redirecting light to a central point to super-heat a pipe flowing with water.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Theres actually been a major increase in solar thermal power stations in the last few years

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

ACKSHUALLY you're not burning atoms in a nuclear reaction. You're creating a chain reaction of neutrons colliding with Uranium isotopes. No combustion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wind and hydro still have to spin a turbine. Solar is the one true stand out advancement in electricity production since we started using electricity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They spin it directly though, not via steam.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be fair, the atoms were going to burn anyhow. We just clumped them together to make better use of them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They can't all be photonic inversion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well Rotating a rotor on a generator is the most convenient way to make electricity with parts that last a long amount of time. Also doesn't help that we use AC power while other sources like photovoltaic produce DC power which needs to be converted to be used.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget about the deadly waste product!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kyle Hill has done so much good in combating the absolute minefield of fearmongering and misinformation surrounding Nuclear power.

As long as you play by the rules, it's incredibly safe. It's when you start taking shortcuts and start fucking around that you find out... and there are plenty of things more likely to kill you than nuclear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Okay, but what about all of the leaking nuclear waste stockpiles? What about the very real nuclear meltdowns that have happened that have resulted in the complete evacuation and condemnation of vast tracts of land that are now totally unusable?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about the toxic fumes from burning fossil fuels literally killing ppl every year? What about the damaged ecosystems from hydro power dams? What about the unrecyclable wind turbine blades that end up in landfill? What about them shiny solar panels in the winter when you have a few hours of sun mostly hidden behind clouds?

Every energy production has its drawbacks otherwise we wouldn't have so many issues with global warming. The thing is, when looking at how much damage the fossil fuels did compared to 3 nuclear accidents, I think there is a clear winner.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

We write down what went wrong and try not to blow up the next one?

Same thing we do when anything blows up really

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Not to mention coal also releases radioactive particles too, but instead of being safely contained they're released into the air you breathe.

But hey, it's invisible, so it's less scary!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I like RTGs way more

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