Or, you know, stop killing on both sides 🤷♂️
this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2023
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Totally. Let's start by no longer giving billions of dollars worth of bombs to Israel and sanctioning them like Iran and Hamas.
Agreed.
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Sure, you wanna call to tell them or should I?
They both stopped answering my emails a while back
So we should probably stop giving them bombs.
Sure, we just also have to figure out how to prevent Hamas from being given rockets.
I'm pretty sure the US isn't giving them rockets so we're good on that.
Well so long as Hamas is getting rockets, Israel needs them too. When you figure out how to stop rockets getting to Hamas, then we can talk about disarming Israel.
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Perhaps if we make a TikTok together asking them nicely to stop fighting. Maybe we could usher in a new era of peace with our thoughts and prayers.
You're obviously being facetious, in response to my facetious comment so I'm not really sure what your angle is, but how do you actually propose to stop the killing on both sides?
I don’t. I’m just making a joke. There’s nothing we can do. They don’t want to stop. Meanwhile a bunch of innocent people are dying. What do we do? Go in as a global collaborative and say “stop?” I mean, no governments are going to do that. It also sets an ugly precedent. Who decides what’s worth fighting for? The good guys or the bad guys? Everyone seems bad to me. I’m curious what the average Israeli civilian thinks of all this. They can’t agree, can they?
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Jews are cool but Israel really sucks.
Do Jews have better air-conditioning or something? I fucking hate summer
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I accidentally got banned from a Lemmy community and I’m truly trying to be as reasonable as possible so this is some touchy stuff because it’s horrible & true — especially if one on your relative perished in the Oct 6 surprise attack at the concert. Please don’t ban me but some of us have relatives that were killed in the attack and so… it’s horrible and true.
I've been banned from some random communities for pointing out that people are fully supporting Hamas, or just being brutally Antisemitic. This vileness is everywhere you look right now.
You weren't accidentally banned. Just saying.
Hope you and your family are holding up okay. This is a shit time.
Yeah I'm sure you got banned for that and not your constant islamophobic, anti-Arab racist shit posting. Poor little victim
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It's not self defense. Your relatives were sacrificed by the Israeli government to create a pretext to commit genocide against Palestinians.
Israel bombed hostages, hospitals, refugee camps, and buses full of children, If What Hamas did was terrorism then what Israel's doing is also terrorism.
There really is no way to bomb hospitals and then blame the hospital for being a human shield when it was your bomb that murdered those children.
In a just world there will be a reckoning for the government of Israel, and it involves sending a great deal of them to the Hague where they will hang until death.
So when Hamas guns down Israeli civilians that are not next to military targets it's justified and actually the fault of the jews, and when Israel strikes Hamas military targets that are deliberately placed next to their own civilians it's never justified and the jews hould hang?
Very cool.
There really is no way to bomb hospitals and then blame the hospital for being a human shield when it was your bomb that murdered those children.
What do you realistically expect armies to do when their opponents place all their military assets next to civilian targets? Just give up and kill themselves?
Those are the only two options I guess, indiscriminately murder civilians and blow up hospitals or suicide.
That's obviously the only option out there.
You're the only person saying " the Jews should hang" I'm saying people who commit war crimes should go to the place where the world has decided to try war criminals and then they should punish them like we have punished war criminals in the past.
We hung Nazis we should hang Netanyahu, they're the same fucking thing.
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Well, what's your solution?
The same solution to Apartheid in south Africa. Give the Palestinians the rights they deserve, stop oppressing them and Hamas magically disappears.
Also israel not funding Hamas could help. They surpress people and fund the organization that does armed resistance. Mhhh wonder why they got so many members.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
Give the Palestinians the rights they deserve, stop oppressing them and Hamas magically disappears.
There's just no guarantee for that specific outcome.
Look what happened with the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Nominally, the Taliban were fighting the Western oppressors. But when U.S. troops left, the Taliban didn't just magically disappear.
For that matter, look at Saudi Arabia or Iran or Qatar or Dubai or Abu Dhabi. They're essentially doing the exact same thing as the Taliban, just with a lot more money. No outside oppressor there.
Given that Hamas shares a lot of the same ideology when it comes to ruling Gaza, what makes you believe they would just magically disappear? Why wouldn't Hamas want to rule Gaza like the Taliban rule Afghanistan, or like the House of Saud rules Saudi Arabia?
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No need to make it look like I'm biased though. If Israel did the same to their own citizens as hamas (not care about them, use them as a living shield, train them as terrorists, tell them from the child age they need to kill Palestinians) I'd criticize them much stronger.
tell them from the child age they need to kill Palestinians
I guess you don't know how education works in a fascist country, then? Go on... ask me how it works.
use them as a living shield
If you believe that, I have to ask... what other white supremacist apologetics do you fall for?
I guess you don't know how education works in a fascist country, then?
My guess it works slightly different than this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ORAM-usqhQ
If you believe that, I have to ask...
Do you mean it was Israeli who placed tunnels and terrorist infrastructure under Gaza's hospitals?
Do you mean it was Israeli who placed tunnels and terrorist infrastructure under Gaza's hospitals?
Yes? That's not being disputed anymore, Israel admitted it.
What makes someone a human shield is not the coward hiding in the crowd but the psycho shooting into it.
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