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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why the fuck is humanity so completely deranged? :(

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have no fucking clue but it gets tiring...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wonder if we're actually getting worse or if it's just easier for the scum to coordinate and to some degree also be more visible due to the internet.

It is starting to feel like things used to be better, like we're spiraling out of control.

There were more and more mass shootings, the alt right/extremists are spreading like a wild fire all over the globe, shit like this keeps happening.

I mean what the fuck? Where are we heading? And why? :/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

if it's just easier for the scum to coordinate

It is, read through history books. Humans always been absoulte scum of the earth

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My theory is that we were created by whatever most mythologies define as the devil, or altered / modified genetically by such a being into what we are today. The nice people who are altruistic are genetic throwbacks that the devil tried his hardest to breed out of the human race, but he wasn't 100% successful.

Also, the true purpose of humanity is to destroy the earth via pollution and by killing and eating all the animals rather than to save the earth / take care of the animals. Things like cognitive dissonance were installed via software reprogramming (brainwashing) to take care of the remnant "moral feelings" that couldn't quite be gotten rid of through DNA tweaking.

If you look at what the vast majority of what humankind are doing (rather than the small vocal minority of environmentalists) it honestly makes sense. Then again, I've come to see "God" as a mad scientist / absent minded professor who was all "Let's move fast and break things, it'll all probably work out post-beta" rather than an all powerful creator being. One of the many reasons I left the church.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Silver lining, they were caught.

I made such a surprised face when the torture mogul decided to pose in front of a Trump flag. 😐

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

"I'm not a bad guy," claims man with swastika tatoo, standing in front of Confederate flag.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is by far the most fucked up thing I've read in a long time. What the fuck is wrong with people? There is no punishment too inhumane for anyone who would do this.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do you feel the same way about people who eat meat?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't feel like that's a fair comparison. Meat consumption has a lot of issues, but the consumer, at the end of the production chain, does not eat his steak with the mindset of "how much more can I make an animal suffer for the lulz, and can we take pliers to it first?". Mostly, they are apathetic or unaware. (Disclosure: I have reduced meat a lot myself but am not entirely out yet and I keep giving myself B12 deficiency.)

I'd compare with much higher in the production chain, the people who devised and enforce inhumane practices.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Imagine being such an unbelievable dumbarse that you think mindless torture is the same as natural carnivorous dietary habits.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're calling someone an unbelievable dumbarse and then immediately using a logical fallacy, who's the dumbarse here?

An appeal to nature is a pathetic defense. It's natural to rape and murder too, but obviously we recognise that those are negative things that should be avoided. Why do you think needlessly killing an animal is any different?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You don't need to rape or murder to live, you need food to survive, kinda two different things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Food yes, animals products no

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

For big slaughter houses etc it is the same. The animals there a tortured on a daily basis. I'm not saying all meat eaters are evil, there are small local farms where animals can live a good life. But the large scale industrial meat (and dairy) production is just this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unless the only reason you're enjoying your beef is because you enjoy thinking about how the animal was suffering to produce it, the two are not the same.

I'm not saying the meat industry isn't evil, but it's not torture for the sake of torture. They just don't give a shit and are only concerned about profits, which is messed up but not the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So it is better to kill, torture and abuse animals for profit than for fun?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Humans can easily thrive without meat or any other animal products, that means consuming it is purely preference, preferring to hurt animals because you like the taste of their corpses instead of just eating plants is fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Downvoting me doesn't make needless killing any less cruel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Plants are living things too, right? So why is it ok to eat them but not animals? Are you saying we should not eat plants too, because it also harm a living thing and we should all just die?

How about any carnivorous animals (which surprise, we are partially) do they need to stop eating meat too?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You misunderstand the ethics of veganism. Vegans aim to reduce suffering. So far, science points to most animals being likely to suffer similarly to how we as humans suffer, since we share evolutionary history and similar biological systems.

Plants do not share these systems, nor have any evolutionary pressure to be able to suffer or feel pain, since they would not be able to do anything about it anyway

It's not a blanket "living things are sacred"

Furthermore, if you really cared at all about the poor suffering plants, you'd know that the vast vast majority of plants grown by humans are fed inefficiently to animals. So, by going vegan, you'd be hugely reducing the number of plants you are causing harm to

Finally, carnivorous animals have literally nothing to do with veganism. Please stop trying to discredit a movement you don't even understand

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I mean we are a species have deficiencies without supplements if having a full vegan diet, how can you say we don't need animal products when not using them causes our body problems?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Well, that's enough internet for today :(

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Well that's enough internet for today. Geeze. So glad these people are being tracked down so they can be brought to justice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

this is a thread which is newsworthy, but unfortunately this is going to have to be the first thread we lock because it's:

  • a magnet for people making violent threats that aren't really acceptable and kind of kill the vibe;
  • a thread where half the comments are some ridiculous argument about veganism and whether eating meat is comparable to this;
  • and a thread where just generally, the contributions have been the expected "that's awful!" but like. nothing else besides the ridiculous argument that isn't even really on topic. if you want to debate veganism and its merits or whether it's an apt comparison to circumstances like this, please just make a thread for that in Chat or something. i don't think this is asking too much.
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

What. The. Fuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Absolutely messed up. What is wrong with people?!?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Reminder that the animals people eat are also living and feeling beings who don't want to die for your burger.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

While you are correct, this is taking away from the outrage about the hurt animals mentioned in this post.

Its rarely like: poor animals I've been eating all my life, I'll be vegan now.

It's more often like: good point, I shouldn't care about these animals neither.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (14 children)

I would still rather be killed and eaten than slowly tortured for weeks by someone making money off torture videos.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

A lot of things that happen in this world don't need to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Most farmed plants are used as animal feed, eating plants directly uses much less.

So even if this nonsense argument had any validity veganism would still be the answer.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I agree what the fuck

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Of course they're circulated on telegram and Facebook. With those flags behind him, I can just imagine his type of clientele. That's incredibly disturbing and unfortunately doesn't surprise me but I didn't expect something like this. Seems like a movie plot level of villains but here we are in reality and this disturbing stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

What the fuck

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