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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think there ever can be a better icon. Some are experimenting with a down-arrow pointing to a flat surface, but the floppy fisk is much better.

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably the closest one is an open HDD but still. Good UI should not require explanation and everyone recognises a floppy disk as "Save".

Same as if I want to send domething and see a paper airplane.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An HDD is also a deprecated symbol

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Agreed but given the symbol for an SSD would be a rectangle or a rectangle with a plug at the bottom, I think HDD would be the most recent tech that would convey "save" when used as a symbol.

Hard to beat the good ol' floppy though
💾

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats downloading clearly. Which could be synonymous with saving of course in some way.

[–] TheAndrewBrown@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Every time you download, you are saving. But not every time you save, are you downloading.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

There is an icon that Adobe has with an arrow pointing down into a folder, and I think that works pretty well.

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s become a symbol that has meaning even if the physical object isn’t used or doesn’t exist any more.

This ⏳ is a symbol that means “time passing” even though the object is rare and obsolete. This ⚽️ is a rare type of soccer ball/football, but it’s the most recognized symbol for the game. This 🚕 isn’t what taxis look like in most places — and many people have never used a taxi; they take Uber.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know the hourglass was a good lead but then you went overboard.

That football look isn't all that rare, maybe in the US? Same for Uber, I have never taken one and they are definitely not the only "new taxi". Again, maybe in the US this is more the case than anywhere else.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never seen a soccer ball that doesn't look like that, as someone in the US. What else would a soccer ball look like?

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For example in US soccer the balls look like this: https://www.adidas.com/us/mls-balls

You sometimes might see the black and white ball but it’s a retro/novelty thing.

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[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The basic shape of pentagons and hexagons is almost always the same, but the black-white color combo is pretty rare - the balls are usually white with colorful designs and use paited shapes other than the 'basic' petagons and hexagons.

For example, take the soccer wikipedia page The image on the side shows a ball with a design that looks like the emoji well enough at a glance, but you'll see it's quite different. If you go on the wikipedia list page for FIFA World Cup balls you'll see that the 'Tango' style lasted for 6 competitions while the 'Telstar' (the one in the emoji) lasted only 2. After 2000 the designs got really wild and nothing like the Telstar. And that's just looking at FIFA World Cups, ignoring all other competitions and events, as well as balls you could buy at a store

If you were to go look at the balls in a sports shop with some 5-6 models of soccer balls, sure, you'll most likely find a ball that matches the Telstar aesthethic more or less closely, but there will be a lot of variation in the designs that are nothing like the Telstar, as opposed to balls for other sports which are much more standardized.

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I guess I was stretching it. In my defense I have never seen the black-and-white ball in play at kids’ or professional matches. And there aren’t yellow taxis in my city. Yes — in the US.

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[–] FedFer@iusearchlinux.fyi 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BurnedDonutHole@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Preach brother! Preach the truth to these heretics who doesn't even talk about phone icon in their phones is still from the analog days.

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

The digital age phone icon is just —

/jk

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So? We still talk about people being 'three sheets to the wind' or hanging on to the bitter end.'

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'toeing the line', 'swinging the lead', 'letting the cat out of the bag' etc.

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't copy that floppy 🕺🏾

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I copied a floppy with a downloaded car on it. Come at me bro.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

🚨🚔👮🏾 The heat is on!

[–] Corigan@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Optimistic of you, that we will get our shit together and get there. Can't even mask to save millions....

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've used a Zip disk more recently than I've used a manila folder, but we still use those for directory icons (and the Open icon).

[–] marco@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The click of death will come for them eventually :p

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s the year 2023 and people are still using “X” to represent the number ten.

And “A” to represent the wide open mouth vowel … and …. You get the point.

I wonder what the oldest symbols still in use are? You could probably argue for some of the old language roots for say water that arguably as far back as language itself.

[–] Dr_Cog@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Speaking of water... How often do you actually see a drop of water shaped like a drop? Almost never

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Every time it sticks to a vertical surface, like on glass: 💧

This on the other hand, is not how drops fall: ☔

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

As it should be. We no longer use floppies so it can exist purely as its own icon and not be confused

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's 2023, we haven't even gone back to the Moon...

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Download is supposed to be:

But what about this one:

With most apps auto-saving nowadays, even Win11's notepad, it seems like a "prevent my work from disappearing" is becoming an obsolete icon.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

That's a bookmark. Specifically, it's a skeuomorph of the ribbon some books come with sewn into their binding for marking a page.

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[–] marco@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

It used to be a piggy bank and peeps from many countries had no idea what that was supposed to be....

[–] eldain@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The QWERTY keyboard layout, developed for typewriters in the 1870s, remains the de facto standard for English-language computer keyboards.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

We also still "dial" phone numbers, despite the fact that phones haven't had dials for something like half a century.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

2246 is wayyyy to soon to have Mars Terraformed

Eh, depends on if the singularity hurries tf up.

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