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The official Steam page for Deep Silver and Starbreeze’s PAYDAY 3 game has been updated to show the use of this ever-controversial third-party DRM.

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[–] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Paying money to save money from imaginary lost sales...

Well, they lost mine by using it.

[–] haych@lemmy.one 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well that's another game I won't be buying. If it gets cracked I might try it, but I won't buy anything with denuvo out of principle.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Filthy console player here, with a genuine question. What's so especially bad about denuvo? I mean, compared to other DRM, which Are also shitty by principle of being DRM.

[–] potterpockets@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not even factoring in killing any sort of mod support (prob not the biggest concern for Payday, but in a general sense it matters) Denuvo is notorious for hurting performance, but the makers aren’t really incentivized to optimize anything because gamers aren’t their customers. The publishers pay the cost to use it. The gamers just feel the cost. Especially if the game is a PC port that already has optimization issues.

Almost all games that are protected by Denuvo anti-tamper suffer from increased loading times, lower frame rates, and other performance issues.

https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-denuvo/#:~:text=Denuvo's%20Anti%2DTamper%20tool%20is,restricted%20to%20only%20Tekken%207.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Denuvo breaks mod support? That would be a big deal, the modding community in payday 2 is pretty huge.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well that sucks. Thanks for informing me.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago

If you try to play offline it's also been the one that has been the most problematic for me over other DRMs. And if playing on Linux like the Steam Deck and trying out different proton versions to see what runs best you can into the daily device activation limi and lock you out.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230802122342/https://old.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/xey42s/locked_out_of_launching_judgment_by_denuvo/

It's a DRM that gets in your way and reminds you that the pirate version is superior.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 14 points 2 years ago

Denuvo = no purchase.

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago

And that is why I don't preorder games anymore.

Games with denuvo: "Once we have your money, we don't give a rat's ass about how the game plays"

[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 8 points 2 years ago

Welp, I have a lot of hours in payday 2....

Guess, I just won't be playing payday 3.... until it drops on GOG.

[–] SpookySnek@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Stupid decision, especially for a game that is most often played online. I'll have to ask the starbreeze guys what they were thinking next time I visit lol

[–] FIST_FILLET@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

that sucks. i'm guessing that the dev team are good folk who oppose DRM, but it is being forced onto them by their publishers.

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