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Just a little rant. When I first visited Lemmy Sites a couple of months ago it felt empty. Besides the really mainstream community pretty much everything else just felt empty.

Meanwhile though traffic has increased a lot and I feel well entertained by the traffic in c/hfy c/noncredibledefence c/keepwriting c/worldbuilding and so on. It is certainly less than Reddit but often quality is substancially higher and is "enough" to keep me entertained.

Also I like that you can actually post something without running into a bazillion deletes, bans and moderator shitshat because your post was two words to short, not NCD enough and so on.

Sure, the C64 community on Lemmy is laughable. So is the ARMA community. I still use REddit for that. Also I often check up stuff on r/hfy and r/NCD but since one week I have been prefering Lemmy for that.

Also my longer posts don't get eaten up any more. God, three weeks ago most posts with 3k an more just got lost without feed back. Nowadays I have even manges posts around 20k without breaking them up. Though the editor is still lacking for longer posts. On Reddit I can copy-paste pretty much anything from Libreoffice into Reddits Editor (which is also pretty lacking but differently lacking). On Lemmy I have to run most text through a little perl script to get them even using correct line breaks perl -pe 's/\n/\n\n/' and different sizes for Headlines are much to few to select from.

Not perfect, not even very good but definitely promising.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe someone here already said this but if you find a community with not a lot of traffic here, make sure to post in it. Others might go looking for it and find nothing, just like you did. Perpetual cycle of I see nothing, I leave. If someone's active, maybe someone else will be active with you. And then two turns to four to 8 and so on. Even if it feels like you're screaming into the void, keep screaming. The void is infinite and someone's bound to hear you eventually.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

To add on that, I'm trying to figure out how people can easily find those small volume niche communities, and it seems like it's a hassle.

So I set up a community on my server : https://lemmy.mindoki.com/c/[email protected]

Post your small community there, and I'll have a user sub to it.

Why?

Because if at least 1 user on a server subs to a community (on another server) then that community will show up when filtering with All (All + new should show even small posts, at least sometimes).

If this is a good idea, maybe everyone running a small (read: low volume) server could do this to really get Federation going!

Cheers

Loulou / Valmond @ lemmy.mindoki.com

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Not to sound like a jerk but I don't understand what most people expected. All new sites start slow. Facebook was slow at the beginning. Reddit too. It's not like they had millions of users and subs day one. We have the responsibility to build up this community. We want a site like Reddit but without the u/spez crap. So we better start building it up and complain less. Criticism is ok but saying "it's slower than Reddit" is kinda useless and obvious.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit got a burst of users when digg did stupid shit. Now Reddit's doing stupid shit and...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit's burst of users from digg though was on top of an established site with a reasonable userbase. How many people were using lemmy before spez decided that Twitter was a role model instead of a cautionary tale?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't think so. I remember there were hundreds of upvotes when I first moved. It was a big thread if it had 1k upvotes. In seeing that on lemmy now.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit was also like Lemmy is now when it first started.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Also it's definitely not slower than Reddit. Reddit was tiny for a couple of years. I'm not certain, but I wouldn't be surprised if we already have more users than Reddit did before the Digg/Slashdot migrations, and those took a few years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Woah now hold on there mate, this is the internet, you can't go making sense, it's just not the done thing!

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Lemmy just needs to stop talking about itself so much. The only reason I still use Reddit is because I find fresher and more varied content there. Lemmy users need to provide more content than just the fact that they are on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lol it's a new community. I actually find it interesting to see other people's opinions about it. I don't mind seeing every 15th post being about Lemmy itself. That won't last for more than a few months at most...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I hope so. I find some excellent content here but I still need to sift through tons of Lemmy circlejerk to find it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

The best thing people who want Lemmy to succeed can do is post original, non-meta content to communities.

Of course [email protected] is inherently meta.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i disagree. Lemmy is quickly getting better.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I disagree. Lemmy has made a big jump and now is getting slowly better.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lemmy feels a lot like hackernews

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

With a bit less bigotry, but otherwise yes.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More fun here in my opinion. The HN discussions are very dry.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I reckon after all is said and done, the biggest issue I had with Reddit is that people felt they had to be heard. Like, we just needed to know that you also thought that certain thing (“came here to say this”) or that you are morally superior to everyone else (“oh but I don’t do it that way OP”). It’s 90% of the reason the content on Reddit had deteriorated, because people crave the attention, and thus the imaginary number going up.

Now I’m not saying Lemmy is different. In fact, I fully expect it to go the same way. But right now, there are far fewer people here who just have to give their opinion (I see the irony), and therefore less shit to wade through to get to actually good content.

As an example, look at the top comment on any default sub post on Reddit. It will have heaps and heaps of replies that are just valueless crap. This is what makes Reddit seem “faster” than Lemmy. The reality is that most of it is fluff, most of it is irrelevant to you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

This is what I wanted to say which is why I came here! Plz upvote me?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

I don't understand the "slowly" part at all. I joined Lemmy about a month ago when Reddit third party apps went dark. Lemmy was largely a ghost town then, with most of the relatively mainstream communities I sought out having newest posts that were days or even weeks old. That desolation was gone after the first few days, with a ton more engagement from others who migrated over and a steady stream of new content. The communities I frequent have grown by leaps and bounds since then. "Slow" isn't a word I'd use to describe Lemmy's growth.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I stopped posting to Reddit because frankly it felt like throwing a pebble into the ocean.

I love the smaller approach here

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

My posts will get no engagement, negative engagement, and very rarely do I get upvotes. Here in lemmy, there's lots of quality posts and nice people who engage with my posts.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

I'm regularly seeing hundreds of comments on posts now and only a month ago it was rare to see a dozen comments on a post. I really don't need more engagement on a post, that's plenty. Lemmy still needs more users to sustain more niche communities, but in the places that people are it's already great.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

As of this last month, Lemmy is my new “go to” for scrolling social media. My Reddit usage is probably 20% or less of what it used to be.

A part of this was Voyager’s Progressive Web App (https://vger.app), it made me feel right at home after Apollo shut down.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Is anyone else having trouble with the "show context" button? When someone replies to you, it only shows what they said. When you click "show context", it.... only shows what they said. The only way to see what you said is to copy their reply and "show rest of comments" and then search for it - that is if it isn't on an instance that hides replies after the second level.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

haha it's funny i felt the opposite - when i got here at the beginning of the 'exodus' i already felt like Lemmy was a small but thriving little community that i enjoyed much more than reddit.

not sure why some want it to be just like reddit but the fediverse. i don't and i'm glad it's a smaller bunch of people and hope it stays that way.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Lemmy is the new way of life. Reddit is the toxic ex.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

I have to disagree about Lemmy not being very good. It is, IMHO, already very good indeed. It will only improve with time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I've only seen one thread which felt completely like Reddit. The community was for the alien comics, and the comics were taking a dig at imperial units vs metric units. Nothing wrong with that, it was all in good fun and jest.

The comments though were toxic frankly. If you said you liked both systems and provided reasons, you were buried in downvotes. If you discussed some upsides of the imperial system, you were ridiculed to be a child. Even if you were an engineer and you provided a lengthy explanation, it was met with derision. And then there were all the logically inconsistent arguments and the notion that Americans were simultaneously idiots but also apparently complete geniuses with how complex they made the imperial system out to be.

I'm thankful it was just the one thread. All of the politics threads I've viewed have been more civil and open to discussion (and I consume a fair bit of political news). Lemmy, until that thread, felt like a place where nuanced opinions and discussions were encouraged and upvoted. I hope it's just a one off.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Thanks for making me aware of c/worldbuilding! It's nice to see more niche communities growing.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Well, a couple months ago there were nice reddit apps. If it weren't for that, lemmy would probably still be a ghost town. Now that being said, I'm happy I'm here and will continue to contribute and I'm so happy that I was able to get the username I did!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Remember when all the discussions were happening in just a couple top posts, mostly meta posts? We've come a long way for sure and I'm proud of everyone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I feel like I'm stuck between two times periods.

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