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Summary:

Democrats are becoming increasingly concerned about a possible drop in Black voter turnout for the 2024 presidential election, according to party insiders. The worries arise from a 10% decrease in Black voter turnout in the 2022 midterms compared to 2018, a more substantial decline than any other racial or ethnic group, as per a Washington Post analysis. The decline was particularly significant among younger and male Black voters in crucial states like Georgia, where Democrats aim to mobilize Black voter support for President Biden in 2024.

The Democratic party has acknowledged the need to bolster their outreach efforts to this demographic. W. Mondale Robinson, founder of the Black Male Voter Project, highlighted the need for Democrats to refocus their attention on Black male voters, who have shown lower levels of engagement. In response, Biden's team has pledged to communicate more effectively about the benefits that the Black community has reaped under Biden's administration, according to Cedric L. Richmond, a senior advisor at the Democratic National Committee.

However, Black voter advocates have identified deep-seated issues affecting Black voter turnout. Many Black men reportedly feel detached from the political process and uninspired by both parties' policies. Terrance Woodbury, CEO of HIT Strategies, a polling firm, suggests that the Democratic party's focus on countering Trump and Republican extremism doesn't motivate younger Black men as much as arguments focused on policy benefits. Concerns are growing within the party that if they fail to address these issues, disenchanted Black voters might either abstain or, potentially, be swayed by Republican messaging on certain key issues.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 years ago (34 children)

From a non-US standpoint this is rather easy:

You have 2 geriatric options. Option 1 would lead to a dictatorship. Option 2 would lead to the - non-ideal - status quo.

How the fuck do you even have to think about which option would be better???

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The Dems have ran non ideal status quo candidates for so long it becomes fatiguing so people stay home or write in Snoop Dogg.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (10 children)

While I totally understand the frustration - apathy cannot be a solution in this scenario!

You'd rather sit at home and watch your democracy go up in flames than just make an "x" on a piece of paper or a screen? Seriously, come on man...

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

non-ideal over violent civil war

this is not a tough decision, my friend

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I always viewed Biden as the lemon I suck on to cleanse my palette between courses, now they want the lemon to be the whole damn meal.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Better than a shit in your mouth? I don't have to be excited to vote for a lemon but I sure as fuck will to avoid a mouth full of shit. Oh and the reality of what a republican pres will do to the environment.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Then maybe get a better candidate? I'm pretty sure most sane Americans will vote for anyone not Trump. It's not that hard, just use another candidate.....

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

one of the biggest issues, in my humble and also arrogant opinion, is that no political party in any English-speaking country, represents any interests of anyone earning under 7 figures. Maybe even 8 figures, and they have 0 interest or motivation in changing that — despite the lip-service both main parties make for it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Correct, but no one on the right is advocating for the working class while a decent amount of the left are pro union and pro worker.

Just because both candidates are bad choices does not mean they are equally as bad. The DNC & RNC decide who is the candidate, let's be real. Primaries are rigged, so we get "a shit sandwich vs a giant douche" as South Park put it so eloquently.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are they "loyal" because they have no other choice? There's your problem.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (11 children)

You'd better believe I'll turn out. I don't care if Biden is sometimes a disaster, I vote D to protect my LGBT friends. Accelerationism only hurts people

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I'm 40+, but youngsters are probably thinking, 'Vote for old white guy #1 or old white guy #2, who cares, neither can relate.' I voted for Joe last time only because Bernie wasn't running. I'm thinking Marianne Williamson this time, though. I don't know if Joe will make it, and I definitely don't want Kamala as president. She put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

'Vote for old white guy #1 or old white guy #2, who cares, neither can relate.

Anyone who actually thinks this way is so far off base it's unbelievable. Politics isn't a personality contest. It's ruthless, calculated pragmatism.

I'm thinking Marianne Williamson this time, though. I don't know if Joe will make it, and I definitely don't want Kamala as president. She put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.

This is an incredibly privileged and out of touch opinion. The damage that Republican policies will inflict on this country is egregious and you're going to base your vote on the fact that Kamala put people in jail for weed? This isn't a game. This isn't a happy democracy where we show up and vote for our feelings. This is literally a calculated political exercise. Your attitude is dangerous and by NOT voting for harm-reducing policies you are contributing to a worse America.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Democrats have done a shit job at selling their victories as well as their vision for the country, as always.

Then come election time they are always wondering why aren't Democratic voters more excited to vote for them.

I am so sick of that same cycle repeating over and over again. Republicans voters are so adamant about getting their people in power that they will break the law and vote twice, and Dem voters aren't excited enough to even show up at the polls.

I also have to add that it's infuriating that the Dems are so splintered of a party that they consider black voters are their most loyal demographic. Nothing against them, but for fucks sakes guys at best black folks only represent 13% of the population. You can't win any elections even if you won every single black vote. They aren't even the largest minority group. Latinos represent just under 20% but many of them support the GOP. Dems need to stop turning their backs on some much larger demographic groups out there. Because they focus on just a few smaller groups, that's why they are always scrounging for votes even in elections that they should have in the bag. It is embarrassing how poorly run the Democratic party is, quite frankly.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As someone who voted Barr-Romney-Johnson-Biden I’m gonna be in the booth pissed I’m voting for Biden again considering the libertarians fully lost the plot and Republicans went full fascist with trump

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago

It's pretty obvious who to vote for considering Republicans are actively attacking our country. Sorry, I don't vote for terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago

Well I'll be there, but it's just because I'd vote for a dead cat over anything the GOP will dredge up.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Democrats only lose if the Democrats beat themselves. And they seem to be trying to do that.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago (3 children)

He was too old the first time, I'm surprised he made it this long. I was under the impression that their plan was to have biden die during his term so kamala became the first woman president.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (6 children)

"... Their plan was to have Biden die...."

Can you hear yourself? That's f'ng crazy.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Funny given I'm only a democratic voter because socialist isn't a viable option where I live, yet I absolutely vote Democrat 99% of the time when it's an option.

For those unaware, most smaller offices the opposition party won't even bother with a candidate. By and large, Republicans have no chance in sense cities (like Chicago or NYC) and Democrats have no chance in just about anywhere rural.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There zero chance democrats dont show up if trumps on the ballot nobody is better at energizing the democrats base than trump

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

I've experienced a infinitesimal fraction of the bullshit, and empathize with the disillusionment. The system is dying. Trump did his damage already. That and worse are inevitable. Money in politics. Money in all of it, i mean you have people being locked up in the name of corporate, and ecobomic interest ffs. I vote in all the elections especially local because that can help shift police behavior for the better of day to day people. I didn't always vote. When trump first won I was listening on a broken wireless am radio in a shitty apt with no power or food in absolute wonder at the depravity of man and the meaning of it all for me... I didn't vote that year. Fuck me right? I didn't even know where the polls were. The people not voting are the ones pushing boundaries IMHO. What we are opposed to is the ruling class. The dnc bootlickers and fascists alike can get fucked.

Wed need the second coming of Jesus to save this version of "democracy" ffs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

I don't cross picket lines, why would I vote for a union buster? Balk all you want but that's my hard line. Already listed out the local reps I can't vote for because of the same reason. Y'all can bend your beliefs however you want to justify feedin into the same old cycle but I told them this was my hard line and they crossed it. Fuck them.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If Trump is elected do you think that his administration would be more friendly to unions than the Biden administration?

If you're mad about Biden forcibly ending the rail strike (which was honestly infuriating) you should know that his administration continued to work with the labor union afterward to negotiate a deal while also avoiding a disastrous economic shutdown that would have resulted from the strike. Could Biden have done more to get a deal without forcing an end to the strike? Maybe. Should he have let the economy collapse in order to support labor rights? Maybe, but I understand why he didn't.

Biden was basically my last choice of the field of democrats running in 2020 but I don't know what anyone else would have done to achieve better results.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago (25 children)

Honestly given the way elections work I'm the us this is a pretty shit line of reasoning

Trump is a union buster and more

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

It's almost like he made a bunch of promises and then the democrats deliberate self-sabotaged so that they wouldn't have to actually fufil them.

What's that, we can't fix the senate because the parliamentarian said so? I guess the filibuster is insurmountable then. It certainly isn't like we can just ignore or replace said parlimentarian.

What's that, rather than using the clear and unambiguous means of forgiving student debt, we're going to use a method that the Republicans can easily block with a lawsuit that goes to their bought-and-paid-for Supreme Court? Guess you're stuck in debtor's hell forever.

Campaign on worker and union rights but then pass laws to force the railroad workers back to work without striking and without any rights.

Republicans are traitors and Democrats are nigh-on useless, and they wonder why voter turnout looks grim.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Of course it’s a conspiracy and not that there was a 50/50 tie in the Senate, which meant you needed 100% support from every Dem Senator, including a guy from a super conservative state who is looking out for his own political future. Obviously if they couldn’t make sweeping changes then it has to be because that’s their master plan, and we shouldn’t bother trying to get an actual solid majority into Congress

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