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It's like reading a news article and seeing horribly constructed sentences and typos. Like, this is your main job! I know there are a lot of English majors out there who would love to find work.

I've been building a list called "The Micro or Low Budget Sci-fi" https://letterboxd.com/mattcoady/list/the-micro-or-low-budget-sci-fi/

Basically movies that cost almost nothing to make and use great writing to build up the world. Our minds are really good and fleshing out the rest as long as their given good writing as a foundation. Productions could save a lot of money with good writing. It blows my mind you could sink $200 million dollars into a project and not have an absolutely flawless script.

It's crazy cause if you hear writers in tv talk about it, they'll get contracted like a month or two before they have to finish the first batch of scripts. Writing in Hollywood is as much about learning quick writing shortcuts/tropes to move the plot along to get the product out on time as it is being able to develop a plot.

My pet theory is that this is because of the assembly line way of thinking of studios. Script -> Casting -> Shooting -> VFX -> Editing -> Profit.

It takes time to develop a good idea and script. If you force a writer to adhere to a strict schedule you'll get a rush job and bad writing. As long as money keeps flowing in, their assembly line theory is validated.

i wouldn’t be surprised if a big part of it is that the higher ups don’t know much about what good writing actually is, or they’re too focused on ratings and they don’t dare deviate from “what works”. it also wouldn’t surprise me if writers weren’t allowed to make “major” changes to scripts after seeing how the writing looks after scenes have been recorded, because it might be “too expensive to change”.

Because writing doesn't really work like that, the reason we get bland writing is because they keep adding extra chefs.

Thay get these professional writers that learned formula in school and apply it to sections of someone else's work and wonder why the result is an ugly tapestry of formulaic rubbish.

All the things people love are written by people with passion for the project, then they get a budget increase and professional industry writers get brought in and it's all shitty generic snappy dialog and dramatic posing that feels uncomfortable and awkward in the scene.

Palpatine coming back wasn't even an interesting premise though.

Read the comic. It does so much better with the concept. Goddammit, can we get at least one good Alan Moore adaptation?! Look at the mans run of Swamp Thing! It'd do well as an animated movie, at the very least!

I know it's bad but for some reason as a kid I loved that movie lol.

Maybe its because i'm not a fan of the books, but I really like Foundation, it has weak points, but overall I'm enjoying it.

Will Smith's compulsive need to never be the bad guy didn't help.

How many times can you use amnesia in a show with seven seasons? How many times can you reveal that Character A is secretly related to Character B? How many times can someone get killed but then miraculously get better? How many times can you introduce absolutely world-breaking plot devices, only to forget about them immediately?

The answer for all of the above, for Once Upon a Time, is THERE'S NO FUCKING UPPER LIMIT.

It did have this absolutely fantastic exchange though...

Grumpy: We're all going to go hang out with Happy.

Snow White: Didn't he get turned into a tree?

Grumpy: Yeah, but we fixed that months ago! We do things when you're not around!

...for which I'll almost forgive all the rest.

'Fables' was a comic book that was the first to use the idea of characters from fairy tales living in the modern era. When people realized that everything was already public domaine we got two shows, neither as good as the comic.

From what I've heard it would have been multitudes worse if Cavill wasn't so passionate about the source, too.

Yeah I never read the books or played the games. So when I watched it I thought it was kinda janky because they were trying a little to hard trying to stay true to the books.

Then I later found out it wasn't true to the books. Sure sometimes you need to change things to make a story work better for a new medium. But why is it so jank then?

If they made changes but it worked really well as a TV show because of those changes I can understand. And if the show is janky because they tried to stay too close to the books, I can understand. But they made a janky show that's not true to the books. I don't understand!

Hollywood is stupid and they didn't want to pay writers after the first draft is written. It may not be so much the writer is shit (they came up with some good ideas after all) it's that they don't have time to make additional drafts to fix plotholes, improve the dialog, etc.

Writing isn't just banging out something on a typewriter and it's pure genius the moment is written. It's a process that usually involves multiple drafts.

You gotta admit a lot of things feel like a first draft, and it's probably because it is. Hopefully these issues were sorted out with the writer's strike.

Because it's targeting the lowest common denominator.

It's generalizing the writing so that it generally appeals to generally everyone to increase engagement. This means that the show loses its specific attractions and it just becomes another generic TV show based in a different world.

The show where they have to sex each other in super sexy horny sex to cast some spell. Yeah sex magic wooo!! And what does the spell do? It just creates a column of light that some guy can use as a beacon to navigate.

My eyes rolled so hard I saw the back of my own skull.

Mr. Robot is genuinely my favorite show and I was shocked to see it brought up in this thread. Different strokes for different folks I guess.