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    [–] [email protected] 253 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The Gordon Ramsey of software

    [–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago

    In a parallel universe, there's a version of Linus who runs a restaurant that makes noma look like a taco bell.

    [–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's pretty funny that Gordon Ramsey is actually a sweet guy and plays up the angry cook guy on TV.

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    In the UK version of Hell's Kitchen you can see this side of him. In one episode he just hung out at the beach with his whole team and it was so wholesome.

    The US show is cut in a way that emphasizes his outbursts, it's much worse.

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Eh, this is somewhat true, and he's dug into this a few times. Some is put up for TV, but he's inclined to be annoyed at people that call themselves chefs, take people's money, and serve them sub-par products. In a few shows, like the one with Angela Hartnett where she took over The Connaught, it showed that he's still an angry dude, but that it was needed because he's taking over the restaurant at one of London's finest hotels. Michelin Star places seem to be the same boiling pot of bullying and anger to strive for the best possible quality.

    Some chefs, like J Kenji Lopez Alt have called it and him out several times on it, because it's a very damaging practice, and one that spreads throughout the industry from wannabe Ramsay's that thinks intimidation is needed to make food.

    I'm sure Ramsay is a lovely guy in person, but I would hate to work for him.

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    [–] [email protected] 172 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    The tone may be a bit harsh but it's muuuuch better than how he used to be during his most toxic days. This is how he used to talk: https://www.networkworld.com/article/706908/security-torvalds-to-bad-security-devs-kill-yourself-now.html

    Linus definitely got much better at handling his anger since his public apology in 2018.

    [–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    [I]f you have anything to do with security in a distro, and think that my kids (replace β€˜my kids’ with β€˜sales people on the road’ if you think your main customers are businesses) need to have the root password to access some wireless network, or to be able to print out a paper, or to change the date-and-time settings, please just kill yourself now. The world will be a better place,” he wrote.

    Hah love it

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    [–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    reads the article

    considers the triggers prompting the outburst

    He’s… not wrong.

    Not right, but definitely not wrong. There is a big difference between effective security and total security. He was dumping on total security, which in many ways is worse than no security at all.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

    Indeed, I think he just wanted to get the point across that it is a dangerous approach.

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    [–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I could write another rant on the whole American β€˜I take offense with that’ mentality. It’s political correctness of the worst kind, and as far as I’m concerned. Jokes are often offensive. If you get offended, the problem is solidly at your end. Think about it for a while,...

    He has a point there though IMO, things are way out if control with political correctness.

    Have you noticed how almost every meme here on Lemmy goes in shitposts? My guess is, it's a safe bet, almost anything goes there, so I won't be downvoted to oblivion just because I wrote female instead of woman. Hell, I know I do it for that very reason.

    [–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    While I mostly agree with you, don't discount the insane volume of genuine hate speech in the United States. A vast amount of it –if not the majority– is coded language so there is an actual need to be extra sensitive. If you aren't a member of a targeted minority, you won't get it because the nature of coded hate speech is that it's only transparent to the perpetrators and the victims.

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I mean, telling someone to kill themselves is something that I've heard a lot, it usually never means "go and literally do it", it's more of an expression... But the fact that it was used in that context is just disturbing.

    [–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

    Doesn't mean it's ever the right thing to say.

    Especially among professionals

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    [–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Linus needs to make no corrections to his behaviour. His apology was needless.

    He only flames those who make dumb mistakes, should know better, keep doing it, and don't respect the gravity of the situation. Linux is used on MARS. Pretend to care.

    There is a pattern to the people who get upset when they've earned a rebuke from Linus. Those people could get over themselves.

    [–] [email protected] 126 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Well, kind of.

    Linus needs to call out bad code, it's an important part of Linux's quality control. He doesn't need to tell people to kill themselves.

    [–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Also, humiliating someone in front of the whole LKML list by calling their code garbage isn't constructive. It's the reason why a lot of people take one look at that toxic cesspit and walk the other way.

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    [–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

    Yea anger issues is no joke

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    [–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You should do one of these a day.

    [–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    A whole calendar with classics such as:

    Who the f*ck does idiotic things like that? How did they noty die as babies, considering that they were likely too stupid to find a tit to suck on?"

    [–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Damn, you know, that's a pretty good idea, a callendar with Linus quotes πŸ˜‚.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

    You could make the memes manually, or like a true programmer spend several hours if not days making a script that make them for you.

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    [–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The follow-up discussion was informative and the original commiter learned something. We all learned something when we read the discussion.

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    [–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’d be so happy if he was yelling at me directly

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

    Notice me, senpai.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    At least someone cares for me enough to yell at me, right... RIGHT!?

    [–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    YOUR CODE IS SHIT AND YOU ARE SHIT

    Omfg I love this guy

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    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

    "we only criticize people we care about. If you're messing up, and no one's saying anything anymore, you're in a bad spot"

    -- Randy Pausch, "Last Lecture"

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

    Linux "Based" Torvalds

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I want this man along with Richard Stallman and the creator of Slackware to be immortal

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Patrick Volkerding. It's amazing he's still managing his own Linux distro after all of these years. And I'm eternal grateful for him refusing to adopt systemd and pulseaudio when they were both not mature and stable enough and most other distros didn't care.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Most users actually have enjoyed both systemd and pulseaudio for many years now. They are both some of the best technology we have in the Linux world.

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    [–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    "It is not what you say that matters but the manner in which you say it; there lies the secret of the ages." - William Carlos Williams

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    [–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I literally just wrapped a web app I've been working on for a few months. I'm so proud of myself. I take a deserved break and see this.

    I hate everybody.

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    [–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Potentially hot take: I wish that more free and open source project leaders had the same "no-bullshit" attitude as Torvalds. It's a great way to cull out entitled people who put their own feelings over actual contribution, thus having negative impact over the project.

    And every single other alternative to this behaviour would lead to worse outcomes, either to the project or the patch submitter.

    [–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't disagree.

    I just wished he stopped making it personal. There's a huge difference between calling a person stupid and shitty versus calling the implementation stupid and shitty.

    He rants, points out the flaws, calls the contributor a moron, and you have to waits a few emails before Linus actually provides a teaching moment. That kinda sucks.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    There is no problem with reusing code, as long as you take some time to understand it.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    It's disappointing to see this kind of stuff still happening. Adults do not act this way. Do better, Linus.

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    The only thing worse than code I don't understand is code I do understand that's literally been copied and pasted sixteen times in the same file.

    Literally encapsulation, its the first fucking thing they teach you in Dev 101, my fucking god people please I'm begging you!

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

    It's like a metaphor for Linux itself

    Are you allowed to make changes to the kernel? Sure, go ahead.

    But FAFO applies. If you come at the king, you'd best not miss.

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