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Hello fellow pirates! I'm tired of having all the telegram premium ads and antifeatures in the client and I'm looking for a client that removed them even if it's against the TOS. Any tips? I'd rather use an actual open source fork than a cracked version of the original

I'm looking for both Android and Desktop (Linux)

What I want is to remove the hateful ads in the channels and the "buy premium to unlock these emojis", and also to be able to arrange the folders in whatever order I like, without being forced to keep the "All messages" as first

thanks in advance!

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://github.com/nikitasius/Telegraher

No one gets to decide what i run on my device
No one gets to decide where i run my app
No one gets to decide what must be deleted

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's super weird to me that pirates aren't advocating for the Free Software movement. Being able to control their own devices should be like one of their main goals.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My main goal as a pirate is getting stuff for free, and I would reckon that the majority of pirates are the same.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Free Software gives you the 4 essential freedoms. One of them is the freedom to distribute the program. So anyone could legally give you a copy for free. Sounds like what you want, no?

Even if the authors implement some kind of DRM, any programmer can modify the program to remove that feature and share the modified version with everyone. Technically that is also possible with non-free software, but it's illegal, pretty difficult and requires special skills.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Free Software

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the link! I'm trying to install the latest APK in the releases (which is 1y old), but when I try to log in it says "you're using an outdated version, please update" refusing to let me log in :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, you can only use it if you where using it in the past, sadly the project seems to be abandoned.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one gets to decide what i run on my device

(Except your device's manufacturer)

No one gets to decide where i run my app

(Except your cloud/SaaSS provider or proprietary app developer)

No one gets to decide what must be deleted
(Except your cloud/SaaSS provider or proprietary app developer)

!I assume this was your point already, I am just agenda posting over here :3!<

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What "agenda" are you posting? You're just nay-saying.

Go eat hay elsewhere with that attitude.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am pointing out that user-controlled computing and user freedom is in a bad shape. That's not nay-saying, since there's a way forward: open hardware and offline-first/p2p software.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (16 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Telegraher, but be aware your account may get banned (I am a premium user tho)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't get banned for using a fork.

Telegram API is open, you can use any client you want, even CURL

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Unless they ban all the users using a specific client

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are incidents where users using particular fork gets banned

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are several: Signal, Simple-X, Session, and Matrix

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh how does one use Signal as a Telegram Client?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Install Signal

  2. Delete Telegram

  3. Enjoy Signal

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah so you didn't actually answer OPs question, I misunderstood your intent.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One simply does not use Telegram - founder is sketchy and it now primarily has alt-right, conspiracy and terrorist uses.

I know some use it for trackers and to bootlick crackers, but it’s still not the best.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it now primarily has alt-right, conspiracy and terrorist uses.

Assuming you meant “users” - I highly doubt that the users you described are even a large minority of Telegram’s user base. They’re highly publicized but that’s it.

Telegram is just a tool. How is saying “don’t use it because terrorists use it” different from saying “don’t use a screwdriver because terrorists use screwdrivers.”

Telegram isn’t a secure messenger like Signal, Matrix, the others you mentioned, or other e2ee options out there. It has an extremely limited secure mode that is useful if you need to have a one-off conversation, but that’s it. But if you don’t need a secure messenger and instead want something to replace Twitter, Discord, other social media, or to serve some other purpose, then it’s fine for that.

founder is sketchy

I’m not familiar with the folks associated with the other apps you mentioned, but Signal’s former CEO and co-founder, Moxie, is a pretty dubious character, too. Signal is anti-FOSS: you can’t use their servers if you fork the client; they won’t federate if you host your own servers; they’re opposed to being on F-Droid or even providing reproducible builds; and they have a history of failing to update their repos in a timely manner, to the point that clients built from source couldn’t even connect to their servers.

That all said, I still use and recommend Signal.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Briar is pretty good if other people have android

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a bunch of apps on F-Droid you could try

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

apps on fdroid are all TOS-compliant, otherwise they would be removed real quick by telegram (AFAIK)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk which third party apps are compliant which aren't? There is this one feg: https://f-droid.org/packages/it.belloworld.mercurygram/ Unlocks the premium app icons for free. https://f-droid.org/packages/nekox.messenger/ This one surely has a few premium features no? Unlimited accounts feg?

Personally I just use Telegramm-FOSS since years. Not sure what the actual differences to official client are at the moment, but this one is just fine and I'm never annoyed by premium feature ads like it seems to be the case for you.

I highly doubt that F-Droid team removes third party telegramm apps when they are against tos of telegramm. They are actually out there defending our freedom, even and especially when proprietary services do not want us to use Foss third party apps. Google does not want you to use third party apps for their services. F-Droid still out there publishing foss YouTube clients. Give them some credit instead of just assuming they suck up to big companies.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly I thought it was an abbreviation for "for example" and probably used it one gazillion times 😅 now that I google it it seems like "e.g." is what I was going for.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would telegram have any bearing on what's hosted on fdroid?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Because fdroid has a policy of respecting developers wishes. It's also why you won't find any forks of signal on there.

Of course anyone can make their own fdroid repos and they have no control of that, but they have to be manually added

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I don't know if it's the "TOS-Breaking" you're looking for, but I've been using Forkgram for a while now and really appreciate the QOL improvements it has, as well as the ability to hide the Premium stuff you aren't using.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Unigram is what you're looking for on Desktop, not 100% sure if they have a Linux build.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is AWESOME! Exactly what I was looking for, thanks!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

64Gram Also has an AUR build

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

does revanced work on telegram? blocking ads is usually the first patch that's put out

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