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Another CEO for mozilla. Good or bad news?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're going to screw their business customers to claw back value for themselves?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Hadn't yet really started on the users, so we'll be getting it first

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any bets on which horrible technology fad this one hitches Mozilla's horse to and spends all their money on?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet it’s Automated Irrigation, also known as AI.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Artificial Insemination. Which was probably the first AI.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Anal Insemination .... trying to create something new in a way that will never work but is fetishized by everyone

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

"Focus" and "streamline" are usually MBA buzzwords to describe layoffs. Hopefully not the case but sounds rough.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LibreWolf is a very decent Firefox fork. Open Source is great because bad CEOs can't really threaten the source code.

Not saying this one is bad though — I have no idea. The last one was raking in $7 million/year which is less than ideal for an open source project.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Open Source is great because bad CEOs can't really threaten the source code.

Most of the time this is true, but for browser engines it's different because of their sheer size, complexity, need to adhere and collaborate with others to form web standards, need for security experts, day one vulnerability patches, etc.

If Mozilla dies, LibreWolf can't just pick up the slack. They die too. Volunteers alone can't run a modern web engine, it takes hundreds of millions per year to upkeep.

There's a reason why we're down to just Google, Apple, and Mozilla. Nobody wants to foot that bill unless they have a damn good reason for doing so.

It's probably more expensive to maintain a browser engine than a full operating system at this point.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll never understand why Microsoft dropped their engine. They can afford to develop it and it would've been a great advantage vs Google. I mean, it wouldn't have helped open source folk either way, but I just don't get why they dropped it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was hoping MS could make a competent engine with a fresh start. I wouldn't even be mad if it was Windows only. Now Edge is just another Microsoft L

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What makes it a great advantage vs Google?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because they now have to go along with most things that Google says. They're reliant on Google now, they have to do what daddy tells them.

Add to that, they've conceded any sway in setting web standards, granting Google more control to push the web in the direction that benefits Google and harms competition.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Perhaps we should take the clue and - if we also see clues of Mozilla enshittifying - switch globally to an easier internet that's also easier to program for. Something like Gemini (the post-Gopher thingy, not Google's latest fad) for example, where I take it maintaining a browser is nowhere near the same order of magnitude as complex.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I wish more distro's packaged librewolf. I know there's an appimage and such but I prefer native tested packages where possible.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doubling down on our core products, like Firefox

Expected them to double down on Google tracking, AI, and pocket while laying off Firefox engineers. Still do, but maybe slightly slower now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We will be rewriting our base code, working off of Chromium!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I'd be switching to servo then.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Doubling down on our core products, like Firefox

Well, I sure fucking hope so. When are we getting back XUL addons or something comparable, you know, the feature that made your browser stand out?

(One can dream, right? Hahaha)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reason that Firefox sucked ass for so long in speed and features was because xul was an unbeatable burden to maintain. Also, firefoxs extensions are still the most powerful out of any browser

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Indeed, they don't have to bring back the XUL. The power users would just appreciate...

  • new extension APIs that interact with the browser UI
  • bring back toolbar customization that was removed for no reason (we can't even move the extension button at this point...)
  • bring back compact mode and better themes (without requiring CSS and about:config tweaks)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

OK, apart from the management bullshit lingo of the article, has anyone an idea what is going to happen?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously they're going to be building platforms that accelerate momentum.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And synergize. We'll loop back and reach out in a couple months to see their single pane of glass.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

This is how I read it also... Scroll-scroll... Bullshit statements, scroll, marketing, marketing, self congratulaty shit, marketing, scroll, scroll....

Where does it say what they are going to actually do??

Scroll, scroll, scroll, give up, post on Lemmy. :)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Nothing concrete was said.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

“interim” CEO…

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