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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (3 children)

lawmakers are scrambling to help

Sure they are.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Can't have landlords taking a haircut on rent.

Who did you think they where helping?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What doesn't work (but inevitably will be tried):

  • Asking nicely (lol)
  • Subsidising rent (landlords will raise rents to compensate for subsidy)
  • Rent caps and rent control (artificial price ceiling creates shortfall in market, leaving people still without adequate housing or on long waiting lists, or landlords will find bullshit reasons to evict tenants and raise rents)

What does work:

  • Building more fucking housing
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The problem with point 4 is that no developers are going to undertake it unless they can make a significant profit. If the addition of new housing has the potential to lower the ROI where is the insentive to build?

If the government decides that they will be the developer/investor then the whole project is definitely going to lose money because contractors will ALWAYS milk a government project.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with point 4 is that no developers are going to undertake it unless they can make a significant profit. If the addition of new housing has the potential to lower the ROI where is the insentive to build?

Your assumption is that all builders have infinite flexibility and are exactly the same. The real world companies can't just adjust their staffing and capital equipment based on last hour revenue. There is always someone will to cut into their margins to get a contract.

Imagine you are running one of those companies. You normally make 100k on this type of job, the market is willing to pay 90k. Do you walk or not? If you walk you still have to make payroll this week. Wouldn't it be better to not make as much money as you want but still make money vs not making any money?

Capitalism is a far far from perfect system, but it really exceeds at racing to the bottom. Someone somewhere is willing to do x for less.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The race to the bottom will work great in underregulated labor markets or anywhere regulations on environmental and safety standards are relaxed. The issue (no problem, because I believe there should be tough regulation) is that there is now a baseline that you can't really go under unless you cut corners somehow.

I've been working in construction in the SF Bay Area for over 15 years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Right so you can't think of literally anyway you can follow the rules and make more money? I find that surprising given that I have listed one method in my previous comment and my infrastructure employer is constantly finding tricks to bring the costs down

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Public housing is not about profit. It's about giving people affordable shelter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

In the same way as someone at work caught picking their nose for the entire duration of the project with a deadline due for last week.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Until and unless they break up these predatory property management companies, anything they do push through won't be anywhere near enough.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Talking to my neighbors, they're dealing with a ~30% YoY rent hike.

Property is managed by RealPage (or some flavor of subsidiary/partner company).

I really hope that company gets SUNK after the anti-trust lawsuit they're dealing with (it's a really slow moving one, and I haven't heard a substantial update since Summer 2023).

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lawmakers are scrambling to pretend to help.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Wrong! They are most definitely helping. They are helping the landlords. They don’t give a fuck about the people.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Show me where anyone is doing anything. Bare minimum

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at Texas property prices, a lot of places actually dropped due to new buildings being available

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And you think lawmakers are involved?.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

As much as my local government sucks they did approve a huge rental complex in my city with the condition that 5% is low income housing. It sucks because even this is no where near enough even for my city alone. Still you asked for anything so I am mentioning it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And by "Lawmakers" they mean Democrats and Progressives.

So far the taste to actually accomplish anything at all from the right wing is minimal. Maybe they could fail to impeach the head of HUD and see if that helps?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

The only time I've seen politicians scramble is when billionaires need another tax break.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The solution has always been to regulate residential investments.

Treating housing as a comodity is the problem. Unafforable housing is the symptom. End corporate landlordship.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely and tack on international buyers snapping up homes left right and center so they too can sit empty

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Zoning reform, minimize single family housing, prioritize mixed use development, 15 minute (via bike) neighborhoods, encouraging & subsiding building development above 5 stories, separating bike lanes from roads, infill development and subsiding parking garages so people drive into those versus massive parking lots, dedicated bus lanes for emergency services & moving buses much faster than reg streets, signs to restrict right turn at red when pedestrians/ bikers are present, ebike purchase vouchers (Denver did this)

Lower cost of living means more money available which means more housing becomes affordable.