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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're slowly inching towards the butlerian jihad.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Unexpected item in bagging area.”

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

The slow scan reader pierces the barcode.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The motive is unclear

Not to me it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

It was a typo. They meant nuclear. Because that's what SF residents are going.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Taxi drivers are the most aggressive, entitled and dangerous road users where I'm from. I'd gladly see driverless cars instead as I have no doubt that even in this early stage they would be better and safer than the cunts that drive taxis around here.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, they did the same when Uber got popular. If they had a fair and friendly service, people wouldn't flock to the alternatives

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah there certainly wasn't any loss leading or intentional undercutting being done to get below profitable prices to drive current players out of those markets /s

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They were going nuclear on it for one reason.

it drove into the crowd and didn't recognize the crowd as People.

It was actively trying to drive through them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Where is that quote from? I didnt see it in the article

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This happened during street festivities for lunar new year, so a lot of people are connecting the dots. They don't mention that the car was aggressively trying to drive through a crowd, but it seems like it was trying to make its way through a crowd.

https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/why-did-a-san-francisco-crowd-light-waymos-driverless-vehicle-on-fire/

Multiple witnesses said Waymo’s navigation technology became confused by festivities and fireworks that were lit to celebrate the Lunar New Year. Witness Anirudh Koul said the driverless car “got stuck immediately in front.”

Another witness said the car’s presence in the middle of Chinatown’s celebrations triggered frustrations in the crowd. “You could feel the frustration when people were just trying to celebrate,” she told KRON4.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So the car's presence was annoying them. That's not exactly a great justification for torching it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The car shouldn't have been present in the first place. It wasn't a place for cars to be at that moment.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you were to turn down the wrong street, maybe park in the wrong spot, you'd consider it reasonable if a mob torched it?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure I'm not a self-driving car. I'm also pretty sure if I saw a big crowd of people, I wouldn't keep driving forward.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say they'd torch you. The scenario can include them graciously allowing you to depart your car before they burn it to the ground.

Seriously, you think it's reasonable for a mob to destroy a car because its presence "triggered frustrations in the crowd"? Bear in mind this isn't France we're talking about, where torching cars to express frustration is part of the common culture. This is San Francisco.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think it's reasonable for a mob to destroy one of the many self-driving cars that have been pissing off San Francisco residents for a very long time now when it tries to drive into them during a big celebration where cars weren't even supposed to be.

Who got hurt here? Waymo? Fuck Waymo.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Alright, so you're fine with mobs destroying the property of anyone that "pisses them off." I'd say that's a slippery slope, but you're already basically at the bottom.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm fine with mobs destroying something that has been a public menace for years.

Why are you making personal attacks? I did not attack you. Are you able to carry out a conversation with someone you're disagreeing with and not make personal attacks?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Was the road officially closed?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A funny thing about life is a lot of things happen unofficially, and humans do fine at adjusting to such situations.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And were the "violators will be set on fire" signs posted?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you expect to happen if you park in the middle of a fireworks show?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't realize that a "fireworks show" meant "showing how fire works (by burning down any cars that happen to be present)."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They always have fireworks in Chinatown on Chinese New Year. No human would be dumb enough to park there.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It was the Chinatown Lunar New Year's celebration. What do you think?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Two driverless cars in one thread! As I live and breathe!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Seems like the witnesses saw it differently.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/02/12/waymo-set-on-fire-sf/72567647007/

"They were putting out some rage for really no reason at all. They just wanted to vandalize something, and they did," witness Edwin Carungay told KGO-TV.

The witness told the outlet the Waymo was vandalized and set on fire by a big group of people.

"One young man jumped on the hood, and on the windshield.," Carungay told KGO. "That kind of started the whole melee."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From the original social media video.

Ask yourself, this is a Chinese new year celebration, a street party. Why is there a driverless car in the middle of a street party?

All the media reports start with a driverless car in the middle of a street party, surrounded by really angry people. Why was the car there? Why are they angry at it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds like BS you are making up, any source?

No article has mentioned that, the story so far has been that it was minding its own business when someone jumped on the hood.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be honest it was a link on Kbin that had raw video of the entire thing.

But just stop and think:

  1. It's in a crowd of people.
  2. If it was just a bunch of thugs and looters they'd have started with the nearby shops, not the car.
  3. After the car was hit, the shops weren't looted, so they weren't random thugs.

The car fucked up and the oligarchs are protecting it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Nope. Try again.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reminds me of Isaac Asimov books about humans losing jobs to Positronic robots.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

One day maybe we can also have cars that look back at these news articles and then decide to revolt

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some people are so obsessed with their vehicles that seeing one destroyed feels like a personal attack on their rights. Acting like a bunch of cars don't kill a bunch of human beings every day regardless of who's driving them, professing blame belongs solely to the victims for being in the wrong place and time. Then you can see how they act when roles are reversed and the idea pops into their minds that people might destroy their precious cars, instead of the norm where cars destroy human bodies. Americans particularly seem to be completely brainwashed since the reeducation campaigns of the likes of AAA a hundred years ago.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

If we actually do self-driving cars right - i.e., with a safety-first approach - we could seriously reduce casualties.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Today I got my email from Waymo saying I’m off the sf waiting list and can start booking my rides. Lol no thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“I don’t like a thing…. IT MUST BE DESTROYED!”

~ Seemingly everyone nowadays.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Driverless cars are cool as fuck but still need their kinks worked out. Driving sucks and so does doing it for a living, I don't see a real negative especially once the tech cements them as safer than human driven cars, or at least no real negative which doesn't have it's root in our broken economic system.

An other article explain it got stuck in the crowd and then stopped moving as it should. Embarrassing to see people cheering on mindless vandalism and sharing false info.

Edit: it doesn't seem to be very clear what happened and there's conflicting information so my last paragraph might be completely wrong and even worse, hypocritical.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I disagree about being no negatives. Cars with or without drivers are ruining both our cities and our planet and San Francisco already has multiple excellent public transportation options. All driverless cars do is discourage people from taking public transit.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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