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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Every accusation is a confession. Also it's funny to think everyone is a latent homosexual all they need is to come in contact with another homosexual to activate their homosexuality.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Many of them think being gay is a choice because they are bisexual. So for them it's a choice on whether or not to act on it. So they project that it's a choice for everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I’ve got a couple of gay friends, and after I’ve spent time with them, my homo be raging.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's sort of true. If you have been raised to suppress your wants of people of the same sex, being confronted with things that you find arousing and forbidden makes that suppression hard. That is, you are now aware that you are gay.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 year ago

Again, everything that a conservative says or thinks is projection. They tell on themselves constantly.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago

I think it's more that "these people" didn't used to 'exist' in their world: Sexual minorities weren't talked about and were invisible for the most part. But since Stonewall and AIDS, LGBT+ people first decided and then learned not to hide themselves. Suddenly someone who you thought of as normal has 'become' gay. You obviously knew them well, it's not possible they were hiding something from you, and there's no chance your observations were incorrect - clearly, instead of you being wrong, something happened to them, something 'turned them gay' - it must have been the frogs, or music, or DnD, or something, it's just impossible you were wrong!

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you can be converted to being gay, then you were always gay. It’s like if you have to pray the gay away, you are gay my guy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Everyone's at least a bit gay.

I might not like all cocks, but I certainly like mine.

When cuntservatives say they are afraid of being 'gay converted', what they are really saying is 'I'm setting up a defense early in case someone catches me on camera servicing a glory hole at the truck stop like I do every sunday after church.'

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No but fr have you tried being left handed?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dont try to drag me into your sinister, ink stained agendas!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Hey if you prefer they can be graphite-stained

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

SToP ShOvInG YoUr lEFt HaNdEd iDeOlOgY DoWn mY ThRoAt

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the fact that people joke about this nowadays. Because my mom still has bad memories from her childhood, where her teachers forced her to be right handed, acting as if it was a choice, and she was just really bad at writing. This was not a third world country either, but the Netherlands.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

U.S. same here, my mother's teachers AND my grandmother beat her regularly with a ruler if she tried writing with her natural dominant hand.

Was so cursed it followed her the rest of her life and even after she was living on her own she wouldn't use her left hand for writing.

The year she passed away she told me about it with tears in her eyes, it stuck with her for 70 years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I have and it's amazing!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also we actually have forced left handed people to become right-handed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weird I've heard about this from so many countries, from Japan to almost every communist country.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Happened to my mother. In the US, in the 30s.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Happened to my wife's mother in the Netherlands in the 1950s. She did everything left handed but wrote right handed.

By the 1970s this was over here, so I guess the southpaws were able to convert enough people to their godless ways. 😉

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One day, 2 Church persons tried to talk to me about Jesus-guy, I bet them in and talked about 2 hours about free choice, real science and evolution. Tried to "discuss" it like they do it, just don't let other arguments be valid and come back to the same shit again and again. I didn't let them go until they almost panicked. Never heard from them again. Btw they didn't touch their tea, hmm. I really tried to convert them to self-thinking, I still hope, something stays with them.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Its always just projection

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (6 children)

And by christians, you mean American Christians. The rest of the world's god-botherers don't do this. Yous are fucking weird bunch, that's why yous got turfed out of Europe in the 15th century 😂😂

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, there's a lot of history to this, but it's a part of why there's so many unusual or distinctive off-shoots of Christianity that come from the US: Jehovah's Witnesses, LDS, Seventh Day Adventists, Evangelicalism, etc...

It's not just the Puritans, in fact, it's mostly not, though they've given us plenty of other cultural baggage.

Because we weren't our own nation, we didn't have our own bishop in the church of English, so for ministers to get ordained they had to go to England to be trained and then come back.

This gave rise to a conflict between the New Lights and Old Lights. The New Lights were basically proto-evangelicals and they determined that the proof of qualification to be a minister wasn't a degree, education, or some church approval from overseas, but the ability to gather a church.

This meant that charisma became the defining trait for a successful minister. They're not educated and they're terribly persuasive. This is why evangelicals have such terrible theology. There's all these ideas that are mainstream evangelical ideas that never existed before this period.

The rapture was created during this period. That's right, for nearly 1800 years Christians wouldn't even know what you meant if you said "the rapture" and now evangelicals wander around telling everyone to be prepared.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So... the Catholic Church, well known for traveling the world to shove Jesus down everyone's throats, is an American institution now? Got it.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heh, and before the 15th century it was the American Christians that went on Crusades, yeah?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is an asinine take on Christianity. What’s the point here?

The vast majority of Christians in the world don’t do this and don’t think like this. Hateful people are going to hate what is different no matter its form.

If you labeled this “Muslims openly behead gays because they believe gays would do the same” the post would be just as inane as it is in its current state.

Hate is hate.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Strange we rarely hear from the vast majority or least the vast majority doesn't speak out to condemn their hateful brothers and sister, in fact I've yet to meet one of these open and accepting Christians in my 44 years on this earth and I live in a heavily populated christian city.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vast majority rarely speak on anything.

I’m sorry you’ve never met one of these “open and accepting” Christians. I haven’t met someone who’s been to the IST, but I know people have been there. I think it would be nice if you open your mind to the idea that there are people that exist that you’ve not met.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure they exist, My point was they aren't the majority. I've met plenty of nice people and nice Christians, My experience with Christians as a majority is they aren't open or accepting,

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Again, I’m sorry that this has been your experience. This hasn’t been mine.

I came to Christianity at an age when most people leave religion. I went from having nothing and no one to having a steady family who love and support me and give me others to love and support in kind. My church family is open and welcoming. We just removed a minister who began an opening prayer admonishing gays because when he was told “we don’t do that here” he got mad about it.

I wholly recognize that there is a set of people who scream about un-Christian things in the name of Christianity, but I reject the notion that these people are representative of the majority of Christians.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Maybe if more good people like yourself spoke out against the hateful ones Christianity would attract more people.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The post would be more accurate if it was targeting Mormons, as they're literally door knockers. However Christians do have a very well documented and prolific history of traveling and attempting to convert others. They are especially known for ~~praying~~ preying on the less fortunate and taking advantage of people who lack basic necessities You're in denial if you're attempting to claim otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

praying

Pun intended? They prey on the vulnerable as they pray.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (24 children)

Yeah. I'm a very religious Christian and never knocked a door and I believe homosexuality isn't a sin. And I know atheists or at least agnostics who actually believe that there's an homosexual propaganda trying to “homosexualize” people.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I argue that you are making an asinine general assumption.

The American evangelicals that are screaming about gays and abortions do not represent all Christians. Just as I wouldn’t want everyone outside of the US to judge me by the actions of one American like Donald Trump, it is not right to assume Christian = hateful.

This post serves no purpose. There are better ways to get your fake internet points.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is that all these other Christians spoke out against and fought against this hate. It happens once in awhile, sure, but mostly it is crickets.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Proof is in the pudding. Christians literally go door to door trying to convert people. They want to convert people.

But gay or trans people are not out trying to convert others to being gay or trans. Accepting people as gay or trans is just like accepting people as left handed. But some/many Christians think they want to convert people because of projection, see post.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi: Theistic Christian here.

Worship who/what you want and marry who you love and be kind to everyone. Even the people you don't like. Trans people are people and good deeds don't get you into heaven.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Great! Do you say this stuff around your Christian friends?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior, Gaysus Bi-st?"

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

If you try really hard and really want it, you too can be 6',5"

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