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A Utah lawmaker is no longer pushing for public schools to display a copy of the Ten Commandments but wants to add other biblical precepts and the Magna Carta to the curriculum.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

Utah teens (grade 9-12) are already often forced (by parents) into taking a full class period for Mormon learning (called Seminary). Students have to leave the school campus to go to a Mormon church owned building, often right next door, for the class as it is not permitted to be taught on campus (for obvious reasons).

The main reason for this is some countries require formal religious "training" before allowing someone to prosthelytize, so the Mormons start early to ensure kids can go on their "mission" at the fresh age of 18.

Not surprised to see them trying to slowly push stuff into the regular classroom, smhmh.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but wants to add other biblical precepts

So the Ten Commandments is not enough for them?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just read HB 269.

There’s a big list of hallelujah shit for Utah schools. IN GOD WE TRUST must be displayed prominently. Selecting excerpts (cherry picking for god) from the Magna Carta, the Ten Commandments, the Mayflower Compact, the pledge of allegiance, etc and displaying or distributing copies of these excerpts in public schools is an acceptable part of the curriculum. This indoctrination shall not be censored due to religious or cultural beliefs.

To answer your question, no, the 10 C’s is just a tiny piece of the dismantling of free thought. The “non-profit” church now demands to have carte blanche influence on all kids in public schools.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Horrific. Just horrific. Thanks for looking it up.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't Arkansas or Mississippi already get told that they couldn't make the ten commandments government supported. There was some Court house somewhere

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Glad I don't live in america

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I hope you are able to find a way to get out if you can because I don't like how things are looking in the united states

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, its fine, there's 50 states to choose from, moving between them is super easy. There's only a handful you really want to avoid the rest of them are pretty chill.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Super ~~easy~~ expensive

Not to mention the exhaustion from hauling all your shit 500+ miles. Moving down the road is tiring enough as is.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is there some kind of refugee status for people trying to get out of the state? Asking for a friend. Namely, myself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Let me know if you find anything out - enby Furry in Texas.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait add the Magna Carta to the curriculum? Is that not already in the curriculum? It's kind of important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s not really that important outside of understanding what it is and the history. It’s not like our constitution, it’s just a set of laws most of which aren’t in place anymore

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jokes on them. They pray to Jesus, call him the son of god and make pictures depicting both Jesus and god as white men. This is all against the first three commandments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know you don't care but Jesus is a facet of God, a triune entity. I could go on but it really isn't worth it to waste effort arguing theistic concepts with atheists. Might as well try and get dry aging tips from a vegan.

But yeah, graven images is still right out.

And Jesus was certainly not a white man.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are right. I don't care about some comic book without pictures that's 2000 years old.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How sad for you, it's got some pretty good stories.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I've read them. Some Jesus parables are good. Comparable to some advice Gandalf has given to the hobbits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which isn't surprising considering Tolkien was a devout Christian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Making both Christian stories and Tolkien words good works for fiction. Cool!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cute little edgelad, got any more memes today?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I got shittons of them, been doing this a while.

None for you though, you're a windowlicker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whatever helps you get off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

... Now you're making it weird...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mormon's explicitly don't believe this. They believe "God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost" are separate beings. This is why many don't believe they are Christians.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They also believe that their leader got divine inspiration from two emerald tablets he bought from a junk dealer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm muslim. Allah (swt) explicitly rejects the trinity, clarifies that He is beyond having a son as He is the creator of everything but confirms the virgin pregnancy of Mary in the Quran. All prophets were messengers who passed the revelation among their people, but they were nothing but humans. Humans who deserve the highest respect, but must not be worshipped or likened to god.

I also listened to an interview with a catholic theology professor before converting (i was agnostic at the time), where he explains how these concepts came hundreds of years after Jesuses (pbh) prophethood and they mostly came for making christianity easier to approach to pagans.

It is also not my intend to mock christians as a whole, but those who clearly abuse the message of Jesus and agressively push their religion while understanding little of it.

I am sorry you got downvoted. i am also not a fan of the know-it-all "checkmate" atheists on platforms like reddit or lemmy and wasnt before converting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Says the know-it-all convert.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I'm not telling anyone to believe or not believe anything. I just wanted to point out the hypocricsy in those that want to plaster biblical verses over public schools.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Joke's* on them

(Short for "The joke is on them".)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A new theocratic state, just what we need in the world... right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m so happy I live in a super blue state and don’t have to worry about any of this nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Well, if Trump gets elected that’s a different story. The handmaids tale.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this is something I'd expect to see on Moral Orel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Utah, what the fuck man.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

i wish i could inject the satanic temple into various situations at will