Attacking food supply is despicable or even terrorism and a crime against humanity. Especially in times of climate crisis and climate refugees. They should throw those responsible in jail.
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2024
360 points (100.0% liked)
World News
45371 readers
4930 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
This is extremely upsetting but not surprising. Poland has some of the weirdest retrograde macho right wing culture in the world. It makes sense that many of them would sympathise with Putin.
aren't they doing it because of some agriculture spat? not strictly putin?
I saw photos of farmers protesting with signs specifically blaming Ukrainians, and saying they’re ungrateful/unwelcome in the country. But I also saw a headline saying that Russian agitators could be behind it. I have no idea which is more likely.
This type of sowing discord is well in line with Putin's playbook and there's evidence of Russian intelligence being involved.
At recent protests the farmers are even mentioning Putin by name, giving further credence to such theories.
Sources:
- https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/poland-concerned-pro-putin-slogans-farmers-protests-russian-107409142
- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/ukraine-grain-russia-war-crimes-food-weaponisation/
- https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/poland-s-farmers-leaders-linked-with-far-right-pro-russian-party/3143889
Fucking terrorists is what these assholes are.
Does Poland not understand that farmers just want a hand out? Its always the same with farmers....
I'm glad people are starting to wake upto just how bad farmers are
Is this your takeaway?
Many of these people have a tough time getting ends to meet economically. Whenever something happens that affects their already shaky bottom line there's going to be anger. Not because they get slightly less rich, but because they feel legitimately existentially threatened.
Of course this is not Ukraines fault. It is however the fault of governments if the bill to support Ukraine economically lands in the knees of the already economically stressed farmers.
If the farmers protests are anything like the ones over here in Germany, then yes. Here they are openly wearing fascist symbols, calling for the lynching of our government, and physically try to attack politicians and their families.
That's on top of the fact that they support parties that are antithetical to their interests. They keep pushing for the right and far-right parties that are big proponents of austerity, in a time when big transformative investments are needed.
So yeah, fuck them.
Identitarians have been actively engaged in instrumentalising the whole thing, in the west there's the occasional idiot, in the east well you know the general problem.
Broadly speaking though farmers are overwhelmingly Green or CDU aligned. And not the Merz-style CDU, but Günther. You could just as well say that they're all filthy liberals because Lindner held a speech at a protest.
That's not really true though, they're wealthy land owners with huge political and economic power who screw over the poor every chance they get to make themselves richer.
Literally destroying produce to maintain high prices, and not just this example of terrorist behavior but it's standard operating procedure for the cartel to limit supply artificially. People are too poor to afford healthy food and they're out there burning it to stop prices slumping.
Then we get their routine use of migrant workers who they treat like shit and vastly underpay. While working politically to stop any improvements to the system of immigration because they benefit from poor peoples suffering, especially being able to threaten to have them deported.
I could go on...
Ironically, a vast majority of the workers making them money have been Ukrainians who they treat like absolute trash already.
I dont know about your country, but in my country the farmers are all millionaires, wanting socialism for themselves, because its great, but not for us "city slickers" oh, no, not ever. Cant wait for AI to replace all farmers. It wont complain as much, or think it can solve its problems by ruining another nations food.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Can't wait to see Ukraine going down and Poland crying about needing help when Russia is at their doorstep. Don't forget you were part of the USSR for a while, and well you know something something making Russia great again.
What?
The whole point of the war with Ukraine and Russia is that Ukraine was part of the USSR. Do you think Russia is just gonna stop once Ukraine is under their control? Next, Ukraine is know for their grains exports. Which would help Russia a lot when comes to finances.
They are literally shooting themselves in the foot. (farmers)
Which goes back to, can't wait to hear Poland complain about Russia being at their doorstep and feeling threatened.
I think the "What?" was aimed at the statement that Poland was part of the USSR at one point.
They were a satellite state of the USSR during the cold war.
they were, in all but name.
The "what" was probably aimed at the statement "Can't wait to see Ukraine going down...". This statement is just ridiculous. If anything you should expect the agressor to go down
That's what we call "sarcasm."
He wasn't being serious. He doesn't want Ukraine to go down but actions like these are detrimental.
I don't fucking understand, Poland had been supporting them so strongly for the past two years
No country is a cohesive mass of likeminded people.
The farmers liked the old party being in charge, not the new one. Also wouldn’t be terribly shocked to learn some of these actions are being encouraged by individuals whose paychecks are covered by the Kremlin, considering the impact this is having in the region.
They protested no matter the party lmao. The issue is that the grain that was supposed to go through Poland as transit was being sold at lower prices than local grain, while not needing to meet the same standards (because it's just in transit here right? Right?) Farmers basically feel like their calls earlier were ignored by Warsaw and Brussels. Russophiles were very quick to come in and make this a russophile thing.
Whole crisis was manufactured by previous government because wouldn't you know, there was a lot of money to be made when some of the "transit" grain disappeared and was sold
They still support Ukraine. But to bring Ukraine's grain into the country is a no go for them. Domestically Poland have to deal with the farmers, constitutes a large demographic chuck of their voters, who can't compete with the cheaper Ukraine's grain and ended up suffer financially.
edit: a news article on this matter
The motivation from the previous nationalist PiS government in Poland was mainly anything they could to do against Russia or against Germany.
So by supporting Ukraine with military equipment, they were acting against Russia. But at the same time slowed down German support for Ukraine, by blocking maintenance and factories for Ukrainian equipment in Poland. Leading to long transports across to other countries e.g. Latvia for maintenance.
Now, with the grain, this has no Russian involvement and their own farmers are unhappy. So there is no way to go against Russia or against Germany. Also there is a new government in Poland, so I guess we have to see how that develops now.
There's always gonna be fringe wackadoos.
I absolutely agree with the article stating FSB involment too
What on Earth does this achieve?
Raising grain prices so conglomerates can fix the prices higher then the market dictates generally.
It'll work, of anything pushes the conflict to an end of when other countries start being unavoidably effected.
If the Ukrainian grain is destroyed they'll need to eat Polish grain.
Doing Putin a favor.
Is this manufactured outrage? I know Polish and Ukrainians have been at odds historically, on occasion. But surely Poland knows that if Ukraine falls, they will be next.
Well, there is a rise in farmers protests in Europe which are taken over by fascists in farmers clothing...
Worth noting that those fascists have always worn those clothes because they are farmers. And it‘s not like they‘re just a small minority of the protests. The whole standstill (as opposed to a movement) has been enshrouded by calls to end democracy with very little criticism from the inside.
Can't they like scoop it back in there and sift out any dirt.