From the headline, I thought they were talking about a random Cuban-American citizen.
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Same, I though maybe a Cuban community leader from Florida or something, I was confused about the quote about Texas
It's so American to call someone from the US by any other nationality. It's like you're not listening to what you're saying.
Yes, we're a nation of mostly immigrants. It is very common to refer to someone's nation of origin.
So are all the other countries of America, a good chunk of southeast Asia, Australia and New Zealand. You're not a unique snowflake in having immigrants.
Though you might be on to something. At least in my home country of Brazil, immigrants and locals readily mix (because we're all Brazilians anyway). In the US everyone is compartmentalized and segregated so it doesn't happen. Why do you do that? Why are mixed parentage persons so rare in the US? What choices do you make that lead to that?
Anywhere else when someone says "my husband is German" it means what is written. What does it mean in the US? What function is served by fixating on heritage?
You're clearly upset, but for the life of me I can't find any reason to care why. There's nothing offensive about calling someone Cuban when they are from Cuba. It's not like I said I wasn't sure if they were talking about you or Marc Dipshit. Take a a deep breath, gather all that hate you have for America, bend at the knees, and blow it out your ass.
bend at the knees, and blow it out your ass.
Commands the guy that says I'm upset. Every accusation a confession with you lot.
Short answer is genocide of native people combined with racism against Black people.
Mixed-race marriage, neighborhoods and schools were illegal in the US, in some way or another, for over 300 years. The US Supreme Court did not rule it unconstitutional until 1967.
The US state of Alabama did not officially remove their laws against mixed-race marriage until year 2000.
Well, Mark Cuban is one of the few people who could honestly say Biden has all his best interests at heart.
He's a billionaire, "fiscally conservative", and supports Israel's genocide against Palestinians.
That's like the only demographic Biden is doing really well with.
It's like saying the leader of the KKK is voting trump, yeah, we didn't need an article telling us that.
I feel you missed out a lot of things that Biden as done well and went out of your way to describe Biden as closely as possible to Trump.
Sometimes billionaires and people don't want a crazy insurrectionist in office.
I know lots of dems are mad at Biden, but it's like they forgot what happened two elections ago. People were mad that Hilary was forced down their throats and didn't like her as a candidate. They didn't vote for her out of protest and look what happened. I've been hearing more and more the same kind of talk this election cycle. No one likes being forced to vote for a candidate, and they should certainly have a better campaign than, "Well look at the alternative," but not voting for Biden is basically voting for Trump. Primaries are absolutely the time to make a protest vote, but let's not fall for this nonsense again. Biden is not handling the Palestine/Isreal problem well but the alternative would be even worse.
This is like abused spouse logic...
Why be mad at voters and not the people who keep putting up bad candidates?
I'm not sure if you remember 08, but the party fought Obama hard and there was a big campaign for neoliberals to vote R, which they did.
But it wasn't enough because lots of non voters turned out and became voters. They just needed a candidate they truly believed would help them.
And Obama was/is really good at convincing people of that.
Biden and Hillary aren't.
You completely twisted what I said. Who is mad at voters? Who said I didn't want a better candidate. All I said was don't fall for the same trap as last time.
We should all just vote for Vermin Supreme and get our free ponies.
Edit: /s
Sometimes billionaires and people don’t want a crazy insurrectionist in office.
They often dont.
But when our only two options is "batshit crazy social/conservative fiscal" and "conservative social/conservative fiscal".
It kind of gives us a problem.
No matter what party wins, the billionaires win.
We just have to decide if we want social progress to roll back, or stay the same.
Which is why 1/3 of the country doesn't vote. And why Obama flipped a bunch of red states his first term.
We can run progressives and easily win elections and get stuff done. Or we can run neoliberals and pray they beat the Republican in a coin flip election.
I don't agree with that at all. The Democrats are actually pushing for change. It may be very slow, but that's how the US government works: we don't make drastic changes on a whim. Democrats are actually pushing for IRS funding to help ensure Billionaires pay their taxes, Republicans are actively trying to reduce their funding. Democrats are trying to enshrine the rights of women to make decisions about their bodies, Republicans are actively trying to remove that right.
All that being said, I do wish the Democrats, and president could be more progressive than the currently are.
this country doesn't appear ready for progressives, or else we would be talking about Bernie's 2nd term right now. We need to move the needle slowly to where a president joining a union picket line isn't big news.
Have the Democrats been successful in moving the needle left in the past decades though? Honest question, I don't really see how the US was 30 years ago in general.
The reason I'm asking is because the prevailing criticism is that if Democrats can only move the needle slowly to the left, and Reps yank it hard right every time they can, then slow change to the left isn't going to cut it, since the country keeps moving right.
When Republicans pull right, it isn't always the same things D's had pulled left. Regardless, here are some examples:
Weed: surge of blue states have legalized marijuana at the state level. Obama mentioned that policy would be to no pursue low level marijuana crimes. Trump didn't seem to change that and now Biden is going through the process of rescheduling Marijuana.
Abortion: R's, in the form of the supreme court, have finally allowed states to outlaw abortion. D's have pushed hard,even in red states, to enshrine the right to abortions.
Climate: California has passed a law that will disallow gas powered cars to be sold after (inclusive?)2035. Other states and countries have followed similar laws. This will also push manufacturers to begin reduce gas powered manufacturing and sales throughout the US due to California's purchasing power.
Climate 2: the inflation reduction act passed by Congress includes increasing green energy technology and production. This is the most massive bill to combat climate change passed by anyone, ever in the world.
Health-care: ACA forces insurances to not deny covering customers, even if they have preexisting conditions. Funny enough, R voters are most helped by "Obamacare" and many like it. (States must opt in to ACA though)
There's of course more examples but those are some off the top of my head.
It's rare to see a comment so divisive and engaging at the same time.
If it makes you feel better, wanting to hold politicians accountable regardless of party is the most popular view.
It just pisses off republicans and neoliberals equally.
Kind of a win/win situation.
It's just not always easy to tell why someone is mad. Unless they explicitly say, it's pretty hard to tell the difference between a Biden and trump supporter online.
I get it.
I was just thinking about the whole Trump thing, about how someone could get hooked into the stupid. And I found that in a way it made sense in 2016 to vote for Trump, in a weird reverse bumfight kind of way. As in seeing fuckwits like Kissinger not just get away with, but get rich off of making the world a worse place, and nobody ever facing consequences. Trump was the gorilla on speed, who is certainly not going to make stuff better for us, but he will at least make it worse for those on top as well.
Of course, that only makes sense if you don't see how fragile the whole US system is, and how easily even someone completely stupid like Trump can burn it down. If he was halfway intelligent, maybe he would have got reelected by not mismanaging COVID that badly or IDK. And the US would be a dictatorship, Ukraine and Taiwan would no longer exist and so on.
That said if nothing else changes, I would still go vote in the general if I lived in the US. I would rationalize it to myself that it is not a vote for Biden but against Trump. It would feel bad though. And that's what empires and autocracies are built on. Voting feeling wrong builds apathy. Apathy leads to dictatorships.
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I don't give a shit what a billionaire says with their mouth in public. What the fuck is their money doing?
Ever heard of Cost Plus Drugs?
You mean loss-leader pharmacy with a built-in profit margin that abuses the fact that the United States doesn't have universal healthcare? Oh yeah, real nice of him. I'm sure the profits from that will make him even more of a billionaire.
Sitting in the stock market oppressing the working class
I misread the headline as "only if he was being given last rites," and was confused until I actually clicked the article. Made me think of people who supposedly only converted to believing in a god on their deathbeds, when suddenly it seemed like it mattered to them.
"Family and friends, good father, forgive me for my stubbornness, and bring me a ballot so that I may change my vote upon seeing the light." ~Markus Cubano, Nov. 2024
I'm still not convinced that's not what the headline says.
Do deliberately vague headlines drive clicks?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Mark Cuban, the former owner of the Dallas Mavericks, said he would cast his vote for President Biden over former President Trump in November, even if “he was being given last rites.”
“If they were having his last wake, and it was him versus Trump, and he was being given last rites, I would still vote for Joe Biden,” Cuban told Bloomberg News in a piece released Monday, referring to a Catholic tradition of praying over someone who is close to death.
The billionaire also told the outlet that he plans to vote for former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley in the Texas GOP primary Tuesday as “a protest vote against Trump,” but that he would still support the current president versus the former one.
Cuban, an investor of the hit show “Shark Tank,” has been a vocal critic of the former president in recent years, praising his ban from Twitter, now X, and other social media in the wake of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, saying it was “the right thing to do.”
Cuban also shot down speculation that he himself would run for president back in November, stating he had “no plans” to do so in an email to NBC News, despite toying with the idea in the past.
Back in 2020, he said that while there wasn’t much of a chance for him in a race for the Oval Office, he had not “closed the door” on the idea.
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No disrespect meant to Mr. Cuban, but if we ended up in another 'Cuban Missile Crisis' type scenario, I'm not so sure that Biden could lead us out of that nightmare successfully.
If only Biden would take a cognizant/mental test and release the results of said test publically.
New birther conspiracy just dropped
New birther conspiracy just dropped
I'm a Democrat who voted for him last time, but okay, whatever lets you sleep at night.