Selfhosted

It needs some tweaks to be snappy. The defaults are really bad.

• change database from SQLite to a proper database like MySQL or Postgres, and configure the database server to use your memory fully
• increase the PHP memory limit from the default (128M on many distros) to >1G, the more the better
• install APCu in-memory cache for PHP
• add Redis as additional cache
• turn off the antivirus extension, if installed (ClamAV is useless)
• use http/2 on Apache/nginx to increase performance with multiple connections

https://docbot.onetwoseven.one/services/nextcloud/

Likely because it's mainly written in PHP and the default database is SQLite, which is not great for large deployments.

But I use Nextcloud daily on a low end machine and I don't think it's that bad.

Nextcloud is slow and clunky if you run it on a banana.

Run it on a "normal" server and everything is smooth.

I assume it's just not built to be fast, because it's still slow even with MySQL, Redis, high PHP memory limits, a fast CPU and NVMe storage, and so on.

Last time I tested it I had a load time of 1-2 seconds just to bring up the files interface, it feels laggy no matter what. And syncing a folder with ~50k files and 40GB or so in size takes a very long time compared to Syncthing or just syncing over SMB.

Use redis and it will feel smoother.

Its not slow and clunky for me

If you want fast file sync between computers, use syncthing

I keep trying it every couple of years to see if it works better, but nah. Even with MySQL/PG + Redis, it's still slow and clunky. Maybe in 2026

What I dont get is why so many years later, their android app still won't auto sync

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And maybe CPU, and also need some good old fine tuning

Because SQLite is slow as balls. Use MariaDB and redis:

https://markontech.com/posts/setup-nextcloud-with-redis-using-docker/

I have been running nextcloud for some time, it was running very quickly. But the v28 update seems to have broke some of the extra apps, like groupfolders.

That said, it's very much a system that needs good hardware to run it well

What's wrong with Nextcloud, and why is it slow/clunky?

Yes it's a pile of shit. Nextcloud is garbage, very bad usability, more reasons and issues listed here: https://lemmy.world/comment/1571886 and https://lemmy.world/comment/346174

Is there a technical reason why it’s slow and clunky? Any problematic choices with how it was built?

Yes, like every single technical decision and line of code they've ever made. https://lemmy.world/comment/5490189

There's software that while good intended is simply garbage and NextCloud is a good example. They constantly market themselves as the self-hosted alternative to MS Office 365 / Google yet they never deliver.

Nextcloud is fine. Use the All-in-One master container, it's faster than any other way I've installed it. I've tried every method from bare metal to docker to NextcloudPi and it's the fastest and easiest to maintain.

It has been slowly improving. It used to be a lot worse but I have a lot less issues with it now than I did before all the changes. Its not the fastest best way to do anything, there are better calendar, file sync, email etc etc applications out there in every category that run better but its also quite an easy way to make a lot of things happen.

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I run the official docker with mariadb and it was never an issue for me