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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

500ml to 440ml?

Edit: the 440 on the right, is the last of a can that I bought in a four pack. The 500 on the left, is one of three I bought as singles.

Packaged Guinness comes in 440 milliliters. Single cans of Guinness come in 500 mL.

Apparently, that's how Guinness does it here in Canada.

And apparently, I lazily avoided any attempt to research or apply any level of critical thinking before posting.

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 year ago (8 children)

That is not new though? I am fairly certain I bought both sizes at various places all over Europe. I guess the 440 is meant for the british market while the 500 is intended for civilised countries.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this is not new and not shrinkflation… here in Canada the 440ml has been around for over 20 years in multi-packs, and the 500ml is available as individual cans.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Germany has the 440, Belgium has(had?) the 500.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My local Aldi had the 500ml cans here in Germany this week so I guess you could get both.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In Britain lots of beers come on both sizes, and it makes comparing prices #mildlyinfuriating. Is 6x500ml at £7.99 better than 4x440ml at £4.50? What if there's an 12 pack of 330ml stubbies for £15, but it's Buy One Get One Free?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Purely curious myself, I asked GPT4 for you. This is the response:

Here’s how the prices compare per liter:

•	6x500ml at £7.99: £2.66 per liter
•	4x440ml at £4.50: £2.56 per liter
•	12x330ml at £15 (Buy One Get One Free): £1.89 per liter

The 12 pack of 330ml stubbies (with the Buy One Get One Free offer) offers the best value at £1.89 per liter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

440ml is a UK variant. No one has a confirmed explanation for its existence alongside 500ml.

However 440ml of water would be 0.44kg which is just under one pound imperial weight (0.45kg). Presumably the fluid plus the aluminium can would weight about 1lb which may explain the odd volume measure (given transport costs and possibly even how customs costs may have used to work?).

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is not shrinkflation.

440ml is a UK variant. No one has a confirmed explanation for its existence alongside 500ml, but it's been around for decades.

However 440ml of water would be 0.44kg which is just under one pound imperial weight (0.45kg). Presumably the fluid plus the aluminium can would weigh about 1lb which may explain the odd volume measure (given transport costs are often by weight and possibly even how customs costs may have used to work?).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Guinness in the UK is sold in pints, like any other beer and ale (and milk) https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/310651734

1 pint = 538ml

P.S. I'm wrong, a pint is 568ml. Shrinkflation for real!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

In a pub yes. But in cans both 500ml and 440ml are common sizes and have been for a long time. Pint sized cans are sometimes available but are much less common and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen them in a big multipack

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I always wonder how far companies will go with this. Do they stop at 300ml? 200ml? Are we going to see 100ml cans of Guinness?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Guinness is owned by diageo a company know for having no bottom, toptier shit heads. They'd charge you full price to spit in your mouth if they could.

Also unpopular oppionion don't drink this mediocre beer. Support local brewery's there is probably one with a porter on nitro (guiness is barely a stout).

Sorry Irish people your cultural touchstone is a bit shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Any famous beer that is associated with a country is usually shit.... Like molson canadian, fosters, or bud light

It took me a while to realize guinness falls firmly into this category as well

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'd charge you full price to spit in your mouth if they could.

TIL Guinness is owned by dominatrixes...? Dominatrices?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did local-ish. Then they were bought out and shrinkflated.

https://lemmy.ca/post/11674959

Was drinking Guinness til I found another.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

While I agree with the general sentiment, these are both standard sizes for Guinness and the 440ml 4 packs and 8 packs have been around for well over 20 years. Here in Canada, the 440ml are available in the multi packs while the 500ml are sold as individual cans. I’ve seen the same in the states. I think OP just saw the smaller volume can next to the slightly bigger one and jumped on the shrinkflation hate train without checking.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do they stop at 300ml? 200ml? Are we going to see 100ml cans of Guinness?

Speaking purely for frozen vegetables, there doesn't seem to be a bottom. I was buying packs that were 1.2 or 1.3kg, then it went down to 1kg, then 750, now 500g... seeing a 500g package at MORE than what 1KG was selling for is hilariously infuriating. Not to mention, it uses twice the plastic to get the same amount of food.

I curse any company that does this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Shrinkflation is the worse. Not only is it a sneaking price hike, it's like the company is trying to gaslight you into thinking it was always that size.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

6 pack bottles used to be 12 fl. oz. and they changed to 11.2. This was 5 or more years ago though.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

About 0.000124 hogsheads

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

A unit of measurement they use in Florida.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fantasy ounces, I think it's used in D&D. What's an ounce, though? Beats me.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] iknowitwheniseeit 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fluid ounces measure volume, so analogous to liters. As opposed to ounces which measure weight, so analogous to newtons, although everyone uses kilos to measure weight in day to day life.

There are also Troy ounces, which are for precious metals, but I honestly couldn't say what those measure....

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

fluid ounces

[–] aubeynarf 2 points 1 year ago

Guys, he made the joke!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imperial weight, thank the Brits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not only in Canada. My wife just commented that she has never even seen a 500ml Guinness can, both single and multipack come in 440ml here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I just bought dog food today. What was 50 lbs is now 40. The next size down used to be 35 lbs. When it gets down to 35, will they reintroduce a 50 pound bag or will I need to buy two 35 now?

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