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This is another post that alerted me of this.

https://lemmy.world/post/13287681

And here is the modlog:

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveCommunity

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Just a quick update, lemmy.world has posted an update that explains their decision here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/16795373

TLDR is that the person who removed the community is fairly new to the mod team and didn't realize there was a bit of a history to this situation. Also, looks like they are sticking with the decision this time around though.

Please don't harass the lemmy.world admins/mods though - if you don't like the situation you are free to register here or on another instance. And if you aren't a lemmy.world user, then this doesn't affect you at all.

I'm proud of our community here, and it's their loss, not ours! pirate captain giving the thumbs up

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy world mods are a joke.

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[–] [email protected] 170 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (18 children)

Why are people joining .world to begin with? The entire point of this is to decentralize. Joining the by far largest instance beats the entire purpose.

Join smaller ones like lemmy.one, lemmy.club, lemmings.world, lemmy.zip etc. We might need to start specifically recommending against .world and for general purpose instances like those.

Also, funny how even reddit allows r/Piracy but not .world lol

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sync had Lemmy.world as the default instance to register a new account (might still be the case, I'm not sure). One of the factors for sure.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So does Voyager, Raccoon, and Eternity. Everything is just defaulting to it and it's infuriating.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The dev really needs to change that then.

Perhaps have a system of selecting randomly from a set of hand-picked general purpose instances at sign-up, where having less people gives it a higher chance of being picked (if it's of at least a certain size of course, to prevent spam etc)

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are people joining .world to begin with?

Because how it works when you first join is very confusing, and why you would choose any particular server is not clear at all.

Also, people want to join something that is bigger and more active because it feels like it would be better (more stable, more content, etc.)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

In all fairness I applied to 5 Lemmy instances when the Reddit downfall started, including .ca and .world. .ml to date is still the only one to have processed my application. It may have been due to lots of applications at the time but the sheer fact my application is still pending on the other 4 instances leads me to use the one that actually works as opposed to the first one I chose.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago

Because they have no basis on which to decide where to go. It's like buying toothpaste but there are hundreds of options, none of which you know anything about, so you get whichever seems most popular. It minimises the risk of ending up with something which is unpopular for good reasons.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

If you join a small instance, the chances are higher that it will a) be poorly maintained and b) fold quicker, forcing you to find another instance to join and re-subscribe to all your communities.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

so long as you're regularly exporting your profile, moving instances isn't a big deal anymore.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whole point is most people want simplicity, not a chore.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

convenience, freedom, price, safety. Choose 2

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

The speed that this happened suggests they might have gotten spooked by something. Put down the pitchforks mates and give them a chance to explain first.

EDIT: Welp, I expected an explanation by now...

EDIT2: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/16795373

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there's anything they should be spooked by, it's the pitchforks!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't you guys have an admin chat group. Or at least you guys would have some way of keeping in touch since this has happened before.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We do, in fact. They never gave a heads-up, and none has responded until now. I found about this from this post

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well at least they honored their commitments /s

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

average lemmy.world moment

being the biggest has it's problems

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Sigh.

On the up side, if anyone wants in, they are free to create accounts on other instances

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The part that annoys me is that this was done silently even though last time they said they would ask their users. Hopefully it was just an admin that didn't get the last memo.

Edit: the community -> their users

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed, especially with 0.19 that allows you to migrate your subs and block lists in two clicks

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Luckily it doesn't affect anything beyond people who insist on using only one instances (world). Glad to have dbzer0 around.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I have four accounts on the four instances that host communities I am interested in.

It's a mild pain and definitely not what we were promised, but I guess that's the only way federation can really work in practice (especially considering when an instance is blocked user on the blocker side just continue to see it frozen in time, with no warning as to what's going on)

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

It’s a mild pain and definitely not what we were promised

I think this is precisely what the ActivityPub model of federation promised, actually 😅

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

Would be a good time to finally leave .world behind. That instance is way too big

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I moved to lemm.ee from .world the last time they banned these communities, as a momentarily fix, never cared to look back as here was better managed, no censorship, quicker updates and no noticeable downtimes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

me too, enjoy seeing the occasional hexbear, ml, lemmygrad, etc

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If any admins of lemmy.world are around, I created [email protected] for the explicit reason of sharing copyright protected music. Can you ban it too? Wouldn't want to get you guys in trouble with mommy and daddy.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another reason why I like Fediverse

If Lemmy.world would have full control over it, this community would just get banned, but there's more and it is still accessable from all other places

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I just left lemmy.world for lemmy.ca

Corporate cucks and their censors can go fuck themselves.

I'm done with that shit.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

lemmy.world is what happens when liberals take over

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lmao i don't think their political affiliation is strictly related to how much of a pussy they are in this context

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No communist, anarchist, or anyone lefty in general would ban a piracy community — short of getting in legal trouble or something, which is not what happened here.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey it got me to switch to dbzer0!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like Lemmy has a tragic flaw…not decentralized enough.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

A disunited federation is still a federation.

AFAIK, lemmy.world cannot remove [email protected] (but block this community or instance), because lemmy.world is another instance.

Pirates interested in this communities will find a way to lurk or participate.

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