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I understand why they did what they did and it makes me think of how db0 and other admins are saying fuck all and taking a very big liability for making and supporting a free internet and i want to say all the work you do is very much appreciated. Also shoutout to lemmy.ml admins for running a similar community on their own .

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Here's the donations links from on the sidebar mateys. The server is currently is not covering its hosting costs ;)

EDIT: Removed since they're in the OP now

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Added to the post .

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are the current hosting costs? Every cent counts, but how much do y'all need?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The ko-fi page has that info i think.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Man, I didn't realize there were only 22 people supporting you monthly.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will never defederate from y’all ❤️

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OT, that's a very nice UN and instance name you have!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank you! I started the server as a random project right after I left Reddit and shredded all of my posts. I’m pretty sure I’m the only active user but that’s okay by me. It’s a little money out of my pocket to give both myself and others refuge from social media and all of the enshitification.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Don't mention it! Your reasoning and mindset is so very heartening, I hope you'll get more active users, they'll be in good hands for sure. Instance owners like your self, db0 are a treasure. 👌

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Just went to ko-fi too, i use lemmy daily and i love this instance & the admins here, and thats worth a few bucks a month

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Care to ELI5 for us casuals who did not catch and are missing the obvious?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AFAIK Lemmy.world (the largest Lemmy instance) was issued a takedown request for something unrelated, and conducted a review of the piracy communities following that.

Unfortunately they decided to remove/unfed a few piracy communities as a result, such as this one on dbzer0.

So while we are still all federated, lemmy.world users can no longer see or interact with the [email protected] community ☹️

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we can still things from them but they can’t see things from us?

I suppose that’s why people make at least two accounts.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I think they've just defederated the community, so they can see users commenting from dbzer0 but can't access [email protected] themselves.

But generally yes, federation is two way. It's possible for one side to defederate while the other side to be federated, in which case users on one side could post comments but they'd only be visible to instances that are federated with them. Eg, if lemmy.world was not federated with dbzer0 at all, but it was still federated with lemmy.ml, then dbzer0 comments in lemmy.world would show up for dbzer0 and lemmy.ml users but not for lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

db0 is a personal hero of mine I have been a follower since his OCTGN creations.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hahah! This answer works for me, because I was unsure what db0 was. Now I hopefully learn two new acronyms

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Online Card and Tabletop Gaming Network

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Love 'em. And mods of this community are pretty tight too 💘

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone who just started with this community, I'll admit that I'm a little confused by what happened. Appreciate everyone who puts in time here though!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One of the largest instances, lemmy.world, is no longer receiving posts from this community. They're worried about legal troubles I think?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Legally I think they’d probably be exempted from liability as a common carrier, similar to how your email server isn’t going to get sued if you mail someone a link to piracy. I doubt they’re interested in testing that theory though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That's a stretch to call any new website, especially with the market share of Lemmy, a common carrier.

By that reasoning, narcotics mules are common carriers. "I didn't know it was H in that bag in my bum! I thought it was a recipe for oatmeal cookies! Don't blame me!"

Edit: I should add that I would love a broad classification of simple facilitators like email and Lemmy etc. as common carriers. Just doesn't seem likely with the lobby man-hours working to prevent even true common carriers from getting that classification.

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