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[–] [email protected] 159 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did narcissistic sociopaths use a crisis to pursue personal gain?

[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Obviously yes. Their production costs barely rose but their prices skyrocketed. Here's a Forbes article from 2022 pointing out that it was increased profit margins causing most of the inflation:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/errolschweizer/2022/09/12/how-profit-inflation-made-your-groceries-so-damn-expensive/?sh=1608bd462eb9

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is just capitalism working as intended. The fact that these price increases are being sold as some kind of abnormality is some real neolib brain in action. It isn't "greedflation," it's literally the same capitalism we've lived with for centuries.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It isn't "greedflation," it's literally the same capitalism we've lived with for centuries.

You're both absolutely right and very wrong: it by definition IS greedflation, inflated prices due to greed.

While it is indeed caused by the same capitalist system we've lived with for centuries, it's getting much worse than it has been now that the billionaires and their corporations have realized that there's no consequences even when their profiteering is so blatant that even the likes of Forbes and WSJ are having to acknowledge what they've been able to distract from before.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no such thing as greed in capitalism, though. Rather, greed is the understood foundation from which capitalism is based on. It only works when there is greed. Companies shouldn't avoid raising their prices because they don't want more money, they're supposed to (in capitlism). The system only works when they raise their prices as much as the market will bear.

My grevience with the term "Greedflation" popping up so much recently is that it feels like a cop-out from the current administration to ease economic anxiety without replacing or criticizing the overall economic model. It paints price hikes as a one-time, circumstantial "quirk" of our times, instead of the logical realization of capitalism that it is.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

And then go one step further and realize it's always been shit. The only time the world has been great has been when kings and capitalism are on a VERY short leash.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

When you say "neolib" are you referring the Neoliberal economic philosophy, or some slang term for modern political liberals?

I ask because Neoliberal Economics is all about this profit, and share holders first, type values. This is in contrast to the post Great Depression, Classical Economics philosophy where companies valued employees first, and shareholders last.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I ask because Neoliberal Economics is all about this profit, and share holders first, type values.

Sounds exactly like modern political liberals to me.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Really?

Most Democrat Politicians today certainly are on board. But they were late to buy in. The Republicans actually introduced Neoliberal Economics into politics, chiefly with Ronald Regan.

Today it's mostly the liberal side of the Democratic Party that introduces legislation to curb all the excesses of Neoliberal Economics.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago

Of course they did. We know they did. All you have to do is go back and read their quarterly earnings calls from 2020 to basically now and they told their shareholders clearly that they were using the pandemic as an excuse to increase profits.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago

So are they going to have to pay it back or did the FTC make a report for nothing?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

... you can't seriously build a system that is meant to take advantage of every situation, praise if for taking advantage of every situation, align it's interests in taking advantage of every situation and then be surprised it took advantage of a situation. We should be better than Pikachu.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's ethical to steal from these grocery chains.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Isn't that what they call self checkout?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are people acting surprised? That is just the invisible hand of the market. Isn’t this the unfettered capitalism we asked for?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Followed by: water is wet

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this even news, ofc they did, give them an inch and they always take a mile, war, recessions and sickness are always a profiteering venture for business.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't think of your death as failure; think of it as fun! Don't think of Wal-Mart's price hikes as war profiteering, think of them as war... fun!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Nothing happens to Corporations around here. It was pretty clear it was greed even before the data hit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

See, it's very simple. You create a massive monopoly/duopoly/triopoly, to undercut, out compete and otherwise dominate small businesses, until they've been fazed out.... then once it's only you, and you decide the pricing, then you start screwing around with prices while politicians twiddle their thumbs.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

You fucking bet and it sure as hell isn't limited to grocery stores.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck you talking about? They haven’t come down!

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's fair, though. They raised the salaries of the people who worked there.

Right?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They did at least where i worked but 3 years into covid and its was only a temporary bonus

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I love all the headlines that declare [report about thing you already figured out years ago] was in fact true, like it's a fucking surprise. Some would say it's good to have corroborating data, but it never seems to help and I'm just exhausted being right so dammed often.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Okay? Now fucking do something about it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course, but they didn't lower the prices after. Fucking awful evil companies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m sure this will result in swift, appropriate actions to hold them accountable. Just let me start holding my breath

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I think the FTC is the only one surprised about this. I bet they're getting their most severe finger wagging ready to go.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

We need experts to explain and study what ordinary people fucking experience first hand

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Shouldn't we blame this on the food monopolies rather than grocery stores?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plenty of blame to go around here.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Is anyone going to do anything about it? No

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone got a link to the actual report?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

What stunning observational powers they have over there at the FTC. Too bad they don't have any teeth because the government doesn't fund them even close to adequately.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Prices were always going to rise, COVID just gave them an excuse to accelerate it in a shorter amount of time. In Capitalism every company with stockholders has to show ever-increasing profits, because it's never enough. Even if you knock it out of the park one year, you're expected to knock it out of the park even further the next year. And so they keep charging as much as they think they can get away with, and it's really not sustainable. We're approaching the limits of it now as everyone is taking so much that the average citizen doesn't have much more to give.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Has been in the news for months. Welcome to last week USAtoday.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Pikachu, I choose you ... to get here and make that face.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You expect prices to decrease when demand increases? I would expect the FTC to have taken an economics 101 class.

I was hoping for a little better reporting in this story, like why does "the FTC report suggest the grocery companies were also price-gouging consumers", but this turd is to be expected from a Gannett-owned organization.

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