To add to that. Meta has been found to have used a man in the middle attack to gain acces to data from competing services. Intercepting and selling that user data before it got encrypted. They literally are evil. Do not let them in.
this post was submitted on 28 Mar 2024
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this is just the latest on on a series of shitty practices too
Way ahead of you. What benefit is there even in federating with Threads? I tried looking at the front page and it's almost exclusively "ads as posts" or wannabe influencers trying to attract an audience.
Even wilder, most of the posts Threads show me on the front page have like, less than 10 replies. I saw one (1) post with close to 200 replies. Even the Fediverse has more engagement than this!
This "ads as posts" thing was one of my two biggest concerns with Threads federation. I really hoped I would turn out to be wrong about it, but at the end of the day, both Facebook itself, as well as big social media influencers, rely on advertising for their profits. For anybody looking to avoid ads on Lemmy, it seems like direct federation with Threads is not a good idea currently. On lemm.ee, "no advertising" has been one of our 4 core instance rules from the start.
My other major concern was Threads having the ability to enforce their feed algorithms on federated instances through sheer number of votes on things they show in their feeds, but judging by what you're saying about the engagement, at least that concern has not materialized (at least yet).
For anybody looking to avoid ads on Lemmy, it seems like direct federation with Threads is not a good idea currently.
It will never be a good idea to federated with threads. There will always be some kind of malicious behavior from threads that makes federating with threads a terrible idea.
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It's frustrating because there are a few people I like, like John Green, who are on threads but not the rest of the fediverse
I follow the Green brothers too and with how much they discuss how social media should be better for humans and all that, it's surprising to me that they aren't on the Fediverse or even talking about it. But they may just be unaware I guess.
This surprises me too. There is a Nerdfighters Mastodon server, but it is pretty small, and I haven't heard it mentioned on vlogbrothers (though I am a few years behind). The fediverse seems fairly well aligned with nerdfighteria, and I'm surprised there isn't more activity and discussion on it.
I'd been thinking about joining Mastodon and I hadn't decided which server to join, maybe I'll join this one? But the question of do I want to see Threads content is a big one - there's a few people I'd like to see, and there's a lot that I really don't.
Personally, I would like to be able to follow individual Threads users if I so desire but not have Threads content showing up in my All feed. I don't know if that's possible with how federation/individual blocking currently works, but it would be the ideal, I think.
Not possible with how it works right now, no.
Out of curiosity, would you want Threads users to be able to vote on what you do see on the All feed or should their votes not be counted, just as their content is not shown?
So as per @Kierunkowy74's reply to me, limiting (basically what I described) is a feature on Mastodon already. It basically just sets things to follower-only mode on a per-instance basis. I'm not sure how well that would translate to the threadiverse, but I do think some level of opt-in integration would be best.
To go on a slight tangent: I've never used Imgur as anything other than a image hosting site, but I'm aware it has people that use it as a social network in its own right. Whenever I've hosted anything on Imgur in the past - even images that don't need any context - I've noticed it always ended up downvoted and sometimes with some negative comments, while the reception on reddit was generally far better. It doesn't bother me - like I said, I just used it as an image host - but it's clear Imgur has its own culture. Threads could be the same, and trying to merge its culture with ours could prove difficult.
I don't know what full-on federation with Threads would look like, but federating vote counts could definitely lead to Threads culture overwhelming threadiverse culture. But I assume that's also something that can be done on a per-instance basis; I know kbin (which I use) already doesn't federate downvotes from other instances, for example.
I'm not sure I have a fully-formed opinion on it all yet, unfortunately. I don't like the idea of cutting Threads off completely unless they do something to earn defederation. I think finding a way to smoothly federate with Threads could give the fediverse a boost in users that could be significant for more niche communities that haven't managed to find a large enough audience yet (because yes, I'm still missing some of the smaller communities from reddit). But I do also think there are very valid concerns about both the long-term and immediate impacts Threads could have on the fediverse.
On Mastodon it is possible, when an instance (like Threads) is limited. Limiting is not outright suspending, and limited instance still federates, but its posts and users are not visible unless you explicitly search for them. Also, no one from a limited instance will follow you unless you approve them as a follower.
That sounds like a good solution. I don't want to need an account on a different platform to see Threads, but I also don't want the feeds to just be overrun by Threads users, and that seems to achieve that.
I guess the ideal situation as far as I'm concerned would be for users to be able to choose that setting on an individual basis. Obviously anyone can set up their own instance and achieve that, but being able to do it without being an instance admin would be the best.
There’s like a thousand reasons this is just the newest
Protip: Theres no need to defederate from Threads if you never started federating with them in the first place. We know exactly who they are.
Already defederated all servers I run from threads. It's just another reason why that was a good decision...
Despite this mastodon admins still had a NDA meeting with Meta:
https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/110548129223290575 https://433.world/@Yuvalne/110566872225488614
Whattttttt
Posted on a lemmy.world community...amusing.
Why?
.world is federating with Threads
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Lemmy.world is federated with Threads
Meta is a dog shit in the middle of a dumpster. Episode 36384927338
Is it failling when actively doing nothing ?