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Steam isn't even on wayland - complain about that ticket if you want HDR lol.
not to mention steam actually does have some degree of HDR support through gamescope, which steamdeck ships with.
(also HDR support on linux has barely started being a thing this year...)
Why would a games launcher even need HDR? Whether games support HDR or not is completely disconnected from HDR support of Steam.
Also Valve is sponsoring upstream development of HDR support in KWin and wlroots (Gamescope is based on it). Red Hat is working on Gnome stuff.
That’s just the client itself. It’s also not entirely their fault, since they use CEF, and CEF is a colossal pain in the ass. The issues and the pull requests are all there, but it doesn’t seem like anyone is actively working on them at this point
Color department? 🤔
You know, the room inside your monitor full of little hamsters with tiny paintbrushes that speed paint everything onto the screen from the inside. They used to have a lot more room, but we had to breed the hamsters way smaller.
This is a beautiful description
Depth
Whelp, gnome doesn't even support hdr yet, but kde added preliminary support just recently. Also, nvidia added supports for hdr just recently with their v550 driver, released just last month. You probably can run hdr games today if you're willing to put some elbow grease. I'm lazy though, so I'll just wait.
Why do you even need that?
PC games in HDR on a good monitor just hit different.
If you say so...
Are... Are you serious? Please try it, and then report back here. HDR is insanely amazing.
HDR is this generations bloom lighting and nothing more.
It's really not though. It's more like this generations 24/32bit colours.
I would be willing to take that bet, I’m telling you 10 years from now HDR will be unheard of in games.
The trend still goes towards HDR, since it’s not just an effect in games. Nearly any modern TV can decode HDR metadata and most streaming services support HDR. Of course, entry level TVs and monitors cannot take advantage of HDR as much but as better TVs get cheaper that’ll spread even more. My TV isn’t particularly amazing but the difference between HDR content and SDR content is clear. If I have a choice, I never watch the SDR version.
HDR isn’t just an effect like bloom. It’s a way of using the capabilities of modern TVs in a way SDR can’t. HDR is made for taking advantage of OLED, quantum dots, high contrast, local dimming, higher colour gamuts and/or the high brightness consumer screens reach nowadays.
So if you wanna bet, I‘d personally bet on HDR being more like the standard in 10 years because screen tech usually only gets better and HDR is the software/firmware implementation to take advantage of those hardware improvements.
Well considering pretty much every modern game engine supports HDR and HDR has been a standard feature in AAA games for at least a decade I seriously doubt they're going to drop it 10 years from now. The only way it gets removed is if something better comes along and makes HDR obsolete.
When I first saw HDR on an OLED monitor, it wasn’t everything I thought people were making it out to be but over time it really grew on me. DOOM Eternal, Horizon: Zero Dawn, and Cyberpunk 2077 have so much color, and the way the light pops makes it all just pure eye candy.
Yeah, even on televisions I just turn it off
Because HDR is fucking amazing? Games really come to life with bright and vibrant colors.
I want to switch to Linux eventually xbut won't until it not only has full HDR support, but can also convert SDR games to HDR like Windows 11 can.
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What is 10 bpc color? I am a Low end user. So, Please tell me
Imagine a gradient bar of red, green, or blue on a display. The latest displays show so many colors that the 256 shades in an 8-bits channel will show banding.
Banding is horrible for photo/video editing hence 10 bit displays that can show 1024 shades in a single channel which is more shades than our eyes can see.
HDR in gaming also uses 10-bit per channel, but it's often a gimmick with current cheap gaming displays and might show banding even if there are technically 10-bits. OLED gaming monitors should be able to display 10-bit accurately though.
Thanks for explanation
It's useless if you don't play games. 10-bit color depth. Most monitors and graphics cards support only 8-bit (per color). But high end ones, yeah, they do support 10-bit (HDR monitors).
The meme is not mine, stole it, but I did find it funny, even though I don't play games.
EDIT: Whenever you see a meme from me, just presume it was stolen, lol. I rarely make my own.
EDIT: Whenever you see a meme from me, just presume it was stolen, lol. I rarely make my own.
That one was already clear when you wrote "It’s useless if you don’t play games." Actual media artists wouldn't say that about higher color depth.
PS: Professional media production uses 16bits per color channel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#48-bit
Probably useless 10bits depth per color?
Isn't HDR support on linux just a nightmare in general? I guess Steam is just waiting for linux to get its act together on this decades old feature rather than join in the madness it currently is.
The SteamDeck OLED has HDR support and so does KDE.
KDE has only had HDR support for a month.
I recently asked questions about HDR & automatic refreshrate switching for a linux HTPC, and the advice in the end was just to find whatever distro already has it all precofigured (and conflcting advice whether i'd need Wayland or X)... i was kind of amazed how poorly supported it appeared to be.
So yeah, if steam is like "yeah, we won't try to venture into that swamp", can't say i blame them after having dared to ask how to get it to work myself.
I've been able to play cyberpunk and the witcher in HDR, also elite dangerous. I have to use a separate tty where I launch gamescope, and have to boot with a patched kernel on a separate bootloader entry. It's not ideal, certainly, but it does work and the experience is good once I did get it working.
Ekhm, Steam is still 32 bit app with only X11 support. It can’t even figure out UI scaling based pn global scale. It’s generally a mess.
Hdr is the least of my worries, I want asynchronous reprojection in VR, PLEASE.
Wayland compositors might implement it this century
I thought some Wayland compositors already supported 10 bit per channel colour?
They do, I was joking. It's not as funny to say the ecosystem is slowly trudging along.
There is plenty of good reasons not to use proprietary software
HDR and anti-cheats are the main reasons I can't fully switch over. I am niche and particular about things so I do think I'd enjoy Linux if it weren't for the games I play. I have an OLED display and too many hours in Valorant. It's like I accidentally upgraded out of Linux.
good reason to have a dual boot then, windows strictly for gaming, linux for everything else, at least that's how I do It