Hell yeah! Make Fortnite Great Again! Those little bastards and obvious catering to them from Epic Games totally ruined this game!
Ciralinde
Sounds like you envy a lot more about it than just the ability to leave.
True, but that doesn't mean I want to live in Russia. It's just ridiculous to fight for what our people get and how our government treats us vs country that gives their people more and treats their people better. Countries aren't something that has inherent self-worth after all, the whole concept of states was supposed to be a tool to make people live better.
But it’s hard for me to interpret this combination any other way than that the “muscles” were helping it succeed
Those "muscles" played central role in making it succeed, people alone couldn't do it. Civilians in general are really bad at violence, especially in eastern europe. I was a student back then, and I didn't know a single person among my classmates or relatives or their contacts who went to Maidan.
and it wasn’t a genuine people’s movement.
It's "genuine" in a sense there is definitely something upsetting people and at the right time forces come in to drive that energy of people into revolution. The point is, it doesn't happen to most of things upsetting people. Since then we've many times had 100x more reasons for another Maidan, but there were no forces investing into "muscles" during long timeframes that were interested in our upset at those moments to overthrow government again. West is way more interested in dealing maximum damage to Russia at the cost of lives of ukrainians than saving lives of ukrainians. Also West thinks that if we become Russia it would just mean that Russia became stronger and it's better to just kill us all to prevent Russia from getting us. It's understandable point of view, but we as ukrainians are not interested in it.
Good job! I don't often participate in political discussions and having my head filled with this for two days is a bit too much.
he wished he could live in Russia
I would only ever travel out of there once and never come back. I'm just envy that they can leave freely if they don't like anything. We don't have such option.
paid thugs coming in rough up anyone who opposed it
I never said that.
Ukraine’s military was corrupt and mismanaging the war
Our government admit this and talk about it every day, yet they only fight each other and don't do anything to fix it.
Eventually, what I told him was that as long as he sent me comment replies filled with bullshit, I was planning on making posts that contradicted his narrative, so the sum total of influence each of his comments would have on the narrative would be against his favored position.
If you're going to miss my posts as inspiration for this, I recommend watching ukrainian youtube. You can turn on subtitles with english autotranslate - it's decent.
Tell me more about these far-right NGOs. Which NGOs, and about how many of their “muscles” were in the protests in 2013?
I took that straight from the Reddit thread I linked, you can find more there (there are some links to other sources as well). There were dozens of far-right NGOs, some of the biggest ones are listed in Wikipedia article you posted (Right Sector, Svoboda, UDAR, Spilna Sprava, Misanthropic Division). By the evening of today dozens of our popular videobloggers made videos about USAID and Maidan. I'm getting kinda sick of digging through this stuff.
Here is Reddit thread I posted before: https://www.reddit.com/r/NeutralPolitics/comments/tg9zwp/what_evidence_exists_for_or_against_the_assertion/
They didn’t create all those people in the streets.
Apparently a lot of those far-right NGOs who were "the muscles" of Maidan were funded by west. I guess most of those have found their way to Valhalla by now. Certainly there were some civilian activists as well. I hope they don't have to participate in undersupplied meat assaults.
If you're interested what ukrainians are talking about today, it's how USAID funded Maidan in 2014 and how it explains why we don't have Maidan now even though we have 100x reasons for it. In the meanwhile, Verkhovna Rada fighting each other while admitting terrible mismanagement of the frontlines. I'm personally researching some threads on extents of foreign influence in 2014 Maidan and some general things about colour revolutions.
Post them again.