this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2025
1510 points (100.0% liked)

Programmer Humor

21988 readers
1930 users here now

Welcome to Programmer Humor!

This is a place where you can post jokes, memes, humor, etc. related to programming!

For sharing awful code theres also Programming Horror.

Rules

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 313 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If your website only works with Chrome, it’s not a website. It’s a Chrome site.

You didn’t design for the web. You designed for Chrome.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Chrome is awful in nearly every way one can measure a browser. Anyone still using this as they're main driver in 2025 is technologically challenged.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s wild to see Chrome going from the browser to use if you had any tech sense whatsoever to being universally derided.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Universally derided

lol try looking outside lemmy. 90% of people still just use it and don't care

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

At least in my country, google is going balls-to-the-walls mode with the chrome psyop. Like every third ad on youtube is an ad for chrome. And if you're a little older, you'll remember their countless other ad campaigns that propelled chrome into the mainstream. The only reason so many people use chrome is because they're brainwashed into it.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

An Antiquarian I see. Carry on my good fellow!

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

I do this, but unironically.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

I code raw html in notepad as god intended

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

That's not necessarily true. Circa 2016–17 I frequented a website that worked in Chrome but not Firefox. This was due to Firefox at the time not implementing web standards that Chrome did. Firefox only got around to it in 2019. So naturally, the developer of the site was telling people to use Chrome.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 94 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know the history of column span but the reason Firefox was "behind" on standards was because Google was pushing new standards through committee faster than competing browsers could keep up. Google would implement a new feature, offer it as a free standard, then get it through the committee. Because Google already had it in their browser, they were already compliant while Firefox had to scramble.

It was Google doing their variation of "embrace, extend, extinguish"

It got so bad that not even Microsoft had the resources to keep up. They said as much when they said they were adopting Chromium as their engine.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Google was actually later to implement this particular standard than Edge and Safari, at least according to MDN. And I believe this was before Chredge.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah it's a very fun name, isn't it?

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm gonna be honest, if they used a feature that wasn't ready for prime time, it's still on them.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Totally agree. It's not the fault of Firefox at all. This is just being trigger-happy on new standards before they are ready and unwillingness to fix a problem in a different way.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It got added because it worked extremely well on browsers that implemented it, and it solved a problem that was needed on the site in question, which was very difficult to solve otherwise. I can't blame a site for using an open standard that works for a majority of its users and which makes the development effort significantly less.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

You don't change standards to fix bad code

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This was due to Firefox at the time not implementing web standards that Chrome did.

Uhm, yeah, that's what browsers do. There are somewhere about 150 web standards and some are hard requirement while others are soft. Blink has some implemented that Webkit hasn't but Gecko has and that's true for all three. Same for browsers.

Btw, the one with the most implemented standards is QtWebkit by far. It's still slower tho.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. I'm saying it's bullshit to say a developer has done a crap job when one browser doesn't implement a web standard that is perfect tailor-made for their site's use case.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Still a bad job tho, if his implementation requires things that aren't common and has no workarounds in place.

[–] firelizzard@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If your job is to make websites and you make sites that don’t work on a browser that has over 100 million users you’re not doing your job.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago

If only one browser runs it, it's not a standard