If your website only works with Chrome, it’s not a website. It’s a Chrome site.
You didn’t design for the web. You designed for Chrome.
this post was submitted on 25 Jan 2025
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Chrome is awful in nearly every way one can measure a browser. Anyone still using this as they're main driver in 2025 is technologically challenged.
It’s wild to see Chrome going from the browser to use if you had any tech sense whatsoever to being universally derided.
Universally derided
lol try looking outside lemmy. 90% of people still just use it and don't care
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That's not necessarily true. Circa 2016–17 I frequented a website that worked in Chrome but not Firefox. This was due to Firefox at the time not implementing web standards that Chrome did. Firefox only got around to it in 2019. So naturally, the developer of the site was telling people to use Chrome.
I don't know the history of column span but the reason Firefox was "behind" on standards was because Google was pushing new standards through committee faster than competing browsers could keep up. Google would implement a new feature, offer it as a free standard, then get it through the committee. Because Google already had it in their browser, they were already compliant while Firefox had to scramble.
It was Google doing their variation of "embrace, extend, extinguish"
It got so bad that not even Microsoft had the resources to keep up. They said as much when they said they were adopting Chromium as their engine.
Google was actually later to implement this particular standard than Edge and Safari, at least according to MDN. And I believe this was before Chredge.
I'm gonna be honest, if they used a feature that wasn't ready for prime time, it's still on them.
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This was due to Firefox at the time not implementing web standards that Chrome did.
Uhm, yeah, that's what browsers do. There are somewhere about 150 web standards and some are hard requirement while others are soft. Blink has some implemented that Webkit hasn't but Gecko has and that's true for all three. Same for browsers.
Btw, the one with the most implemented standards is QtWebkit by far. It's still slower tho.
Yeah? I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. I'm saying it's bullshit to say a developer has done a crap job when one browser doesn't implement a web standard that is perfect tailor-made for their site's use case.
Still a bad job tho, if his implementation requires things that aren't common and has no workarounds in place.
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I like this template so much better than the Spider-Man one that people constantly use backwards.
But this one's also backwards? I haven't seen the movie, talking purely about the two photos.
In the movie the glasses let the wearer see the truth. This template is often used backwards but it's correct in this case.
What's the movie?
"They Live!" A guy finds some strange sunglasses that lets him see the subliminal messages hidden in all our print and media and advertisements. He can also see aliens walking amongst the population, disguised as regular humans!
Turns out, Earth had been invaded by aliens long ago and they've been keeping us under their control with subliminal messages for decades.
And the aliens definitely aren't allegory for capitalists
The Full movie is worth a watch.
"I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum"
Perhaps the best line ever uttered in any movie. Rowdy Roddy Piper maybe a B movie actor at best, but he was meant to play that role in that movie.
I have often wondered: Who wore a kilt best. Bruce Campbell or Rowdy Roddy Piper. Campbell was a Sharp Dressed Man in his kilt for sure. But Piper wrestled in one for years-- it was his trade mark garb.
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The movie is called 'They Live'!
My website only works with Chrome, but it has to be a specific old version of it. And you also need to install some extensions. Very specific versions of these extensions. Few of them already removed from the store due to security backdoors.
I have a Docker image you can use to run Chrome though.
What version of Docker do I need to run your container?
You'll need my fork of docker, and you'll need to apply a patch.
At that point, just release your website as an electron app.
When developing photon I always end up with more issues on chrome browsers than firefox. and half of those are because of its god awful scrollbar. Please use an overlay scrollbar instead of shifting the stupid page around, chrome.
ugh yeah classic chrome am I right? (I forgot how to center a div)
Or... The client wanted a WordPress site and that's just the result of it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wish I could like this thrice
Make an alt account.
This has been a problem for a very very long time
I agree with you that failing to support multiple browsers is an old problem, but I think the cause has shifted.
Back in the last century, supporting both browsers amounted to sniffing the browser and implementing the same feature twice. document.layers vs document.all for example.
Nowadays I think the problem is different: we just don't know what's going on. The site is transpiled from TypeScript, written on top of React or Vue which drastically switches paradigm (bonus for Tailwind), packed with building tools, and the average dev has little understanding of what actually comes out. It's a tall stack of leaky abstractions on top of the already tall one of the web. The dev is pretty sure it works on Chrome so they say it does work there, but it was not even a deliberate choice.
I’m going to have to go down the rabbit hole of making my own website soon. Just curious but would there be an easy way to show a pop up just to people using chrome?
No reason in particular… 😏
lol i did something like what i assume your goal is on my neocities when i detect !!window.chrome === true
Why the double negation?
It's a handy way to convert any value to a Boolean. If window.chrome is defined and done non-empty value, double negation turns it into just true.
I've been wondering why not window.chrome == true or Boolean(window.chrome), but it turns out that the former doesn't work and that == has essentially no use unless you remember some completely arbitrary rules, and that JS developers would complain that the latter is too long given the fact that I've seen javascript code using !0 for true and !1 for false, instead of just true and false because they can save 2 to 3 characters that way.
==has essentially no use unless you remember some completely arbitrary rules
If you make sure the types match, like by explicitly converting things on the same line on that example, then you can use it just like if it was ===.
In fact, there are people that defend that if your code behaves differently when you switch those two operators, your code is wrong. (Personally, I defend that JS it a pile of dogshit, and you should avoid going to dig there.)
I've never seen the !0 and !1, it is dumb and indicates either young or terrible devs.
Boolean(window.chrome) is the best, !!window.chrome is good, no need to test if it's equal to true if you make it a boolean beforehand.
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JS "idiomatic" way to cast to boolean. But could just be written as !window.chrome instead.
Not sure if serious, but there's a million ways to do this, some that require importing thousands of lines of code and none of which are guaranteed to work in all possible circumstances. But here's a simple one.
Im stupid Stones but I think it's in the user agent information, browser and version and other shit
User agents cannot be fully trusted anymore since every browser puts every possible word in it so they are not excluded by anything.
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Greatest format ever. I present you with the Demi-God of memes award for best use of THEY LIVE if you originated the template. If you did not originate you get the cool assed dude award for sharing. Many thanks.
In most cases yes.
However I did find this really weird bug where Firefox was caching something to do with sockets (that would disallow connecting a new socket) that could only be cleared by restarting Firefox itself.
Is that http2? Cause http2 allows for reuse of a connection for additional requests.
This caught me out with envoy reverse proxy doing a few subdomains using a wildcard cert.
The browser would reuse the connection cause the cert authority and IP was the same, but envoy couldn't figure out how to route the request correctly. Absolute head scratcher!
How did we get from "SGML varient for formatting text" to this?
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