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Debunk from dev Pierre-Loup Griffais ‪@plagman.bsky.social‬

"we've done pre-release Mesa Vulkan work on every AMD architecture since Vega thanks to them kindly providing hardware, so there's nothing meaningful to read into there."

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This rumor has been going around for a few months now, mostly because of some commits targeting new unknown hardware to SteamOS afaik.

I hope the rumor is true, I love my steamdeck but something a bit more powerful that allows me to play Steam games in 4k on my TV would be awesome. If they run the same exact OS as on the steamdeck you could even do stuff like ad-free youtube using Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

but something a bit more powerful that allows me to play Steam games in 4k on my TV would be awesome.

I got news for you! You can literally build a computer to do this right now, no need to wait for steam.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know that. I want something ready to go with a dedicated controller and not fiddle around with components myself that may run too hot or are too noisy etc.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good news: pre-built PCs are also a thing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Pre-built PCs come with Windows and are not suited for a console-like experience out of the box like a machine with a preinstalled OS for gaming (whether that be SteamOS, Orbis (PS4/5), Horizon (Nintendo Switch), or Xbox's OS).

Not everyone is comfortable with installing their own OS/deleting Windows either, regardless of how easy it is.

Something like a Steam Machine 2 can really appeal to console gamers who want to dip their toe into PC gaming while still maintaining a console-like experience.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I get all of that. I'm just saying if you want to do it, you can, today. And it's not even terribly complicated.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

technically? yes

but don’t act like it’d be the same

aesthetics, build quality, assurance that it’d all work smoothly, the whole experience just wouldn’t be the same

which is to say nothing about the fact that SteamOS doesn’t really work on hardware that’s dissimilar to the steamdeck… if they released a console, one would assume it would have higher specs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

aesthetics, build quality, assurance that it’d all work smoothly, the whole experience just wouldn’t be the same

You're right, it'd probably be way better...and it would be customized to your preferences and price point.

which is to say nothing about the fact that SteamOS doesn’t really work on hardware that’s dissimilar to the steamdeck…

You're right again, you could use Bazzite or Nobara or Chimera and have an even better experience. Ask me how I know.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Steam has big picture mode, and gives the console experience. It's not really that difficult to install steam on a PC.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Pre-built PCs come with Windows and are not suited for a console-like experience out of the box like a machine with a preinstalled OS for gaming

It isn't that hard to install Bazzite. Literally the hardest thing to get it working great is finding a prebuilt that uses an AMD graphics card for the driver support.

And I've had people that don't even use PC's recommend Bazzite to me when I mention Linux. While not everyone knows what it is, you'd be surprised how much word of mouth has spread

[–] RedditRefugee69 1 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure you can get pre builts that are not Windows.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you want some eggs? I got news for you! You can literally build a chicken shed right now, no need to wait for farmers.

Seriously, the same captain obvious answer all the time when a Steam console is mentioned. It’s infuriating. Consoles exist for a reason, to provide a ready and verified environment for playing games without any fiddling.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can I build a chicken? That's the real question..

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Please don't fuck a chicken

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can you build computer parts from scratch?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Please don't fuck a computer

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Sure. First, you have to create a universe...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I would argue that's no longer the case.

I was a long time console gamer, for exactly the reasons you mentioned- no fiddling. I was time-poor, so I wanted to be able to slip the cartridge/disc in, and just play.

Those days are gone, my friend. I turn my console on less and less. Every time I do, I need to download game updates. But I can't do that unless I download the system update. I need to sign in to various networks just to be able to do this. Usually with a paid subscription.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's also been some arm SoC work by valve, could be they're gearing up for a new SteamStation, could be that they're opening up SteamOS for 3rd party manufacturers like Lenovo. Only time will tell.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The ARM SoC work is likely for a VR headset to rival the Meta Quest line. Valve isn't going to build a console-like PC without an x86 processor in it any time soon until x86 emulators like FEX and Box86 become more advanced and faster.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Undoubtedly, but a girl can dream right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

perhaps, but Apples rosetta2 works great with crossover and games. valve just pulled proton out of nowhere: they might just decide to do the same with a hypothetical x86 translation layer

(although i have heard that rosetta is so good because apple made some fundamental additions to the silicone to make it more x86-like so that translation performance didn’t suffer too much, which valve couldn’t do)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know this isn't exactly what you mean, but I use the Remote Play function to stream games from my PC to my living room TV, it works like a charm!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yup I've been doing that as well using nvidia shield but it has become very unstable as of late. Network latency and input lag is also an issue in some games unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Ah that's unfortunate.

To clarify I use my Steam Deck in a third party dock with a LAN-port connected to my TV. I've had no issues at all and streamed FF7 Rebirth with 2k resolution and stable 120fps yesterday, no interruptions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are you using Steam's integrated streaming, or Moonlight/Sunshine? The latter has less lag and can handle higher resolutions, but is a pain to set up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I was using Moonlight yes. Might have to give it a go again some time.