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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The article discusses that. H-2A visa programme can be used for seasonal work.

The entire animal husbandry industry all the way through slaughter, requires workers that show up daily.

I suppose it might be possible to have seasonal slaughters but milk and all the subsequent dairy products are done.

And any vegans that think is for the best, keep in mind it involves a genocidal like slaughter of all those dairy animals occurring within hours of workers being unavailable.

Feel free to show you really give a shit about these animals by getting ready to purchase them from these farmers and care for them for the remainder of the animal's life.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

And any vegans that think is for the best, keep in mind it involves a genocidal like slaughter of all those dairy animals occurring within hours of workers being unavailable.

Ok, but they'd probably it would be only once, instead of the current unending cycle.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Dairy cows are slaughtered for meat once they're no longer productive enough anyway, aren't they? Either way they're going to die.

https://thehumaneleague.org.uk/article/how-long-do-cows-live-naturally-vs-on-factory-farms

You didn't think they got to retire in a nice meadow, did you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

cows don't "naturally" live to 20+ years. they do that artificially, given proper veterinary care, healthy food and water, and protection from predators and the environment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

There's a massive difference between being killed for meat and being killed because it's too expensive to maintain them. We're talking thousands of tons of meat going to waste, not a dairy cow being killed at the end of its productivity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

😂😂😂

Vegans get off on acting like they're better than everyone else for eating 'clean' whilst willfully ignoring the damage that's done to our planet by shoving pesticides and fungicides into the soil and waterways.

While I admire the attempt, no there's simply no way a vegan will ever do something like this. In the mind of every vegan, they've already done their part by eating only plants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes. Veganism has all sorts of issues. Their way leads to a world with less biodiversity not more. It is also propped up by the industrial times we live in.

They like to point out that some areas have been vegan for centuries while ignoring the mortality rates those areas had during those times. Famines were common.

There entire ideology is based on a biased examination of the data and their need to silence anyone that questions their dietary choices is a huge red flag. They and they alone are allowed to question others choices but what this t do isn't question, because they already think they have the answers so instead their ridicule.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Their way leads to a world with less biodiversity not more.

can you support this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes.

A wide range of animals only exist because we include them in our food chain. Saving a few samples still reduces the bio diversity.

A wide range of plants only exist because they are useful for feeding the animals we include in our food chain. There is no reason to grow feed corn if there are no animals to feed it to.

There is likely second order affects where the biom feeds of these two things and would disappear. This is a bit more hand wavy but we already have evidence that monocrops and pesticides are doing this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

given habitat destruction, which is attributed (fairly or no) to agriculture, i was hoping you had some data on the number of species that would exist in a vegan world vs nonvegan.