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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Also because Taiwan has basically slave labor like China. Also things cost more here cuz our workers have benefits and things like rights.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

cuz our workers have benefits and things like rights.

Who is gonna tell this stable genius how US construction actually work?

👀

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You saying things like OSHA and fall arrest harnesses and PPE don't affect construction speed in the US at all?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am saying that original commenter is talking out of his.

Also, referencing OSHA here shows that you don't understand how a construction site functions. Sure there is regulations but lax enforcement, extensive usage of suncotnrwctors and less than legal labour makes all of that enforcement merely a theater.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you think it's bad here, try other countries. I don't know about Taiwan specifically, but lots of countries have even worse enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

A lot of countries have it better but I don't see my dear cuntry men strive for that...

Cope harder haha

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Taiwan doesnt want its workers dying or disabled either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

My comment had nothing to do with Taiwan, just the quote that sunzu2 said about how US construction actually works.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1950 wants its tired anti china tropes back

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Noting that China has been almost universally hated for 75 years is actually the most anti-China post today, good job.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

What benefits and rights are that supposed to be?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What rights are these of which you speak?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Those with which you don't have record suicide rates at workplace, probably, with workers jumping out of windows, the solution to which was to put grids like in prison. Talking of Foxconn.

I get it, people have it hard everywhere, but some have it harder, and between American and Chinese workers the relation is clear.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The difference is that Americans want rights destroyed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But America has a higher suicide raterate?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Compared to what? I didn't name a specific country, but you can pick some and let us compare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There’s a big cultural difference. Taiwanese workers, like Chinese, Korean, and Japanese workers as well, have a much higher tolerance for long work hours and less pay.

All of these East Asian cultures have long-standing social norms against complaining and refusing to work hard. It’s a collectivist culture of work that puts the success of the company ahead of the individual’s interests. In return, companies tend to be loyal to workers so it’s very common to stay at one company for your whole career.

We westerners used to have similar values back in the 1950s and earlier. That all changed during the counterculture.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I live in Korea. How do you define "loyal to workers?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

All of these East Asian cultures have long-standing social norms against complaining and refusing to work hard.

Pathological Culture of Bootlicking

Disgusting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

You are correct, but people always want to believe their enemy's enemy is their friend, and if their enemy is ideological, then that enemy's enemy must be their ideological friend, and same with morality. That's never so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're getting downvoted, but I work in the industry (GF, Intel, TI, TEL, Screen) and have heard horror stories from people who have worked on TSMC and even Samsung sites.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

“Right to work”