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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Realistically, it's the Democrats who failed the voting public. Their campaign of "We offer you nothing!", did not seem to drag in very many undecided voters. You and I might be very politically active, but the majority of Americans are not.

You need to give them a reason to go out and vote. A lot of people have very short attention spans, and easily forgot how bad Trump was the first time around and shaming the people for their shortsightedness is not how you win elections.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Keep telling yourself the democrats failed and somehow they are now suffering, they aren’t, they’ll get to take 4 years off and enjoy their wealth, it’s the voters who tried to punish the dems by not voting who are the morons

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Keep telling yourself the voters are morons until we lose in 2026 and 2028. If Democratic candidates don't convince people to come out and vote we are lost.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hey I’m Canadian, looking at this from the outside. You guys inside the shit show can’t quite see how the rest of us see you and your situation

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People love it when outsiders comment on their country's politics

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

lol the irony and utter hypocrisy of an American saying this 😂

P.s. im native, it’s MY continent

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Hey I'm Canadian too. Don't speak for "the rest of us." It's the Democratic parties' own gd fault that they lost. If you can't convince the average voter to vote for you when you're running against an obviously volatile, incompetent, narcissistic, geriatric moron with fascistic tendencies backed up by the world's richest and least charismatic deadbeat dad then you done fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If we lose in 2026 and 2028 I think that would just further prove that voters are morons.

The only people actually losing here are the American people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But that's the problem. The voters are all morons. The Democrats knew this. And Republicans were giving a master class on how to make that work. But the Democrats didn't do anything. They treat politics like a friendly game of Monopoly. They assume the rules are magically enforced. So when the Republicans started to cheat, the Dems kept playing by the rules. And now we have a fascist government.

Also, I don't think the Democrats are suffering. They're all rich. They can live just fine in a fascist US, they have enough money. We are the ones that are going to be loaded onto the trains.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Their point was that the Democrats didn't fail, because they didn't try in the first place

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Biden was the "Nothing will essentially change" candidate. We finally pushed him out, but Harris only had 2 weeks to come up with "Something". That something? A small tax credit for small businesses that was DOA in the house. It was probably why they didn't promise anything else - if a TAX CUT isn't passing the GOP controlled parts of congress, what the heck could Harris promise that would?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

"That something" also included the largest medicare expansion in history and $25k first time homebuyer assistance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The democratic message was less "we offer you nothing" than "nothing will change".

Nothing will change has good sides and bad sides. The bad side is that there are no new radical fixes, just small, incremental changes.

The good side of nothing will change is... well look at the absolute chaos of the Trump second presidency. Installing absolutely unqualified candidates everywhere, the military's first DUI hire for secretary of defence. The absolute destruction of USAID. Musk's chaos putting BigBalls in charge of trillions of dollars of government spending.

(And, as an aside, it's not even true that with the democrats nothing was going to change. Just look at the progress they had been making on antitrust. But, it's true that they were shit at messaging and taking credit for their accomplishments.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"We offer nothing" and "nothing will change" are fundamentally the same thing when things are objectively bad.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Not when things could get much, much worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

If you are eating raw veggies and corn flakes nothing will change means you eat boring food. Offering nothing means you die a painful death. See the difference?