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You realize without health insurance companies more people would die, right? It would just be everyone only getting the care they alone can afford without insurance.
First world countries have this thing called universal healthcare for their citizens.
Then the murderers would be the voters who consistently choose this system.
Lol. When exactly did US voters get an option to vote for universal healthcare?
It's a core DNC stance. They tried to pass it the moment they had supermajority with caucusing Ind for 72 days in 2013, but the Ind betrayed us and we lost it by 1 vote in the senate. Instead we got the medicaid expansion and CHIP renewals which support 79 Million Americans currently.
The fact that the GOP is currently trying to gut it is even more proof that this is a clear partisan issue.
If people voted for Universal Healthcare then we would have it. But they don't vote for it.
So who did we fail to elect that would have gotten us universal healthcare?
Democrats. The DNC stands for the Democratic National Committee, they're one of the nations two core political parties.
I know what the DNC is. I'm asking who we specifically could have elected that would have gotten us universal healthcare. It wasn't even on the platform agenda for 2024.
Any Democrat is better than any Republican.
Yes, but I'm asking you to back up your argument:
Then who should the voters have chosen? We've had many Democrats, but no universal healthcare. It's not even part of their platform. Yes, they're better than the Republicans by a country mile, but you said the voters chose this system, so who could we have voted for?
No, you asked me who to vote for to get the stances you pretend to hold, and I told you.
You said the Democrats, and I told you we've elected loads of Democrats and obviously do not have universal healthcare. You've also failed to mention a single Democrat we could have elected to get universal healthcare. Can you provide any justification for your claim that it's the voters' fault that we're in this mess?
We have not elected loads of democrats, we haven't even elected a full 50 to senate in about a decade. The most we ever elected to the senate was 58, in 2013.
Yes, it’s totally the voters fault and has nothing to do with the broken system that is kept in place by powerful corporations bribing (lobbying) those in charge to keep the system broken for their own benefit and profit. You fucking donkey.
The voters chose to keep the broken system, so yes.
Obvious bad faith argument; I'm not going to waste my time engaging with you any further.
When did you vote on this? I never had such an opportunity
You have the opportunity every single election cycle. The sides haven't changed in decades.
Which side my vote is on also hasn’t changed in decades. Arguably a big reason I live where I do is finding other people who also vote for our future, everyone’s well being. However voting between fascists and centrists isn’t good for anyone
That would be called 𝘦𝘯𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘪𝘯𝘨 the murderers. The healthcare industries could in theory decide to save many more people without going bankrupt. They are still murderers even if half of the us voted to hand them a knife