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Hiring is broken (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Almost none of that is asked on an application except the degree date. All of the above would be a fucking nightmare for HR. You really think employers are dumb enough to ask questions that could lead to discrimination lawsuits?!

After you are hired, the forms ask:

  • Gender and race (you forgot race!): Employers need this for mandatory Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) reporting.
  • Alcohol and drugs: Only for a very few positions, government, security and the like. Perhaps you were filling out a Form 4473 to buy a gun and got confused?
  • Arrested and convicted of a crime: Imagine an employee getting raped and the employer having to say, "We had no idea!" I've been arrested shitloads of times, no convictions, no problem. Also, I'm betting you can say "no" for misdemeanor convictions, no one gives a shit unless the job requires a security clearance. And if you think standard hiring invades your privacy, oh boy.
  • Military: Various laws to protect vets require the employer to know this for benefits, accommodations, etc., same for spouse. Also an EEO thing.
  • Government work: Never seen this, but I imagine it's like any employer, "Ever worked for us before?"

You made some of that up out of thin air and didn't understand the rest. And here ya got 61 upvotes from people taking all that at face value. Be better.

SOURCE: Worked IT for an employment firm with 200 employers. Designed and posted hiring forms, hiring data and onboarding at two places. Learned more about hiring than I ever wanted to know.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

You really think employers are dumb enough to ask questions that could lead to discrimination lawsuits?!

Yes

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I made none of that up.

Ridiculous.

I'm not here to convince anyone; simply stating verifiable facts.

Not here to spoon feed you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I predicted this exact response. Should have put that in the post. It's a perfect copy of how conservatives react when given facts.

"Nuh uh. It's true. Do your research."

OK. Bet.

The laws enforced by EEOC prohibit an employer or other covered entity from using neutral employment policies and practices that have a disproportionately negative effect on applicants or employees of a particular race, color, religion, sex, including transgender status, sexual orientation, and pregnancy

How about the depression thing?

https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/guidance/depression-ptsd-other-mental-health-conditions-workplace-your-legal-rights

I can do this all day. Or would your rather compare our professional experiences involving HR, hiring and onboarding?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

In Fiscal Year 2022, the EEOC received 73,485 new discrimination charges, representing an almost 20% increase from the previous fiscal year. The agency also handled more than 475,000 calls—an 18% increase from FY 2021—and managed 32% more emails from the public than the previous year.

https://www.wenzelfenton.com/blog/2022/07/18/employment-discrimination-statistics-employees-need-to-know/

So I guess almost half a million people had no reason to call the EEOC that year, and none of these cases are hiring discrimination or anything. None at all. The experience you had at an employment firm, who's service is to perform this process, is completely identical to the hiring practices at every other company that may or may not engage a service to hire people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Disabilities.

They allow for asking almost every one of the questions I mentioned.

You're obnoxious.

I am blocking you now. You're too dumb for words.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

You really think employers are dumb enough to ask questions that could lead to discrimination lawsuits?!

Yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I've been asked all these questions in my job search in the last 6 months. The questions I imagine you're skeptical about like have you ever been depressed or abused drugs do come up often. Not in the initial application but in the required personality test.