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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s about standing up when someone picks a fight with you. It’s not turtling or capitulating.

It’s not throwing punches to escalate, it being aggressively defensive though. It we get into a tussle, you’re not coming away unscathed, you’re going to take an elbow to the chin.

Sure it’s about trump. He’s the one attacking, who we have to defend against. I’m guessing you’re not a hockey player. Maybe the context doesn’t make sense to you.

I have no idea what renaming anything would have to do with this concept

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you dont need to be lecturing on what elbows up means poser

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Probably a sock puppet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about the terminology which I am quite aware of. I'm talking about a feigned nationalism based primarily around foreign issues with an underlying dependence on US trade.

True patriots and nationalists, and yes there are plenty, don't see this as a fight. They see it as a disappointing loss for the United States. The real "fight" is unfortunately with our own government and their capitulation to a global sense of political subversion that erodes history and establishes ideology as a national identity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

While I don't disagree with the essence of your point, keep in mind that "no true Scotsman" is a common thought fallacy, in this case, "no true patriot or nationalist". You can't speak for everyone.

Patriotism is a complex topic, but I think we can all agree that, for example, companies weaseling themselves into the Canadian market under the guise of patriotism is not okay. Intention matters.