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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (8 children)

The thing that I will never not think about is how, given the distance and human reaction time and other factors, it's very likely that the shooter had Donald dead to rights when he pulled the trigger. Then, God's favorite idiot jerked his head to the side like he always does when he speaks, probably around the exact same moment the shooter pulled the trigger, and instead of blowing the back of his head clean off, it grazed his ear. I'm not sure anyone can convince me that the shooter didn't fuck up; Donald just got incredibly, unbelievably lucky.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago (5 children)

He was not struck with a bullet. It was shrapnel from one of the nearby screens. There's a reason they didn't release the first medical report and took a week to get their favorite lying doctor (who is not a practice doctor any longer because he's in Congress) to release his own lie filled report.

A bullet would have torn off a hunk of his ear. We've seen the lack of wound within days of the event.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is the first time I heard of this and made me really curious. I tried my best to find any proof, confirmations or fact checking sites backing up this claim, but nada. Either the dude has succesfully paid literally everyone to lie, or, sometimes the truth sounds worse than a lie and our cognitive function really wants approvals for that.

If you have something solid, please send it to me, wish I could use this argument, but at this point I'd feel like yellow press

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After much debate, the FBI report settled on bullet or bullet shrapnel but there was no conclusive evidence as Cheeto bandito refused to be checked out or let doctors talk about it.

The idea above was an initial theory by Internet no lifers. The more common one now is that he hit his head on a secret service pistol when ducking.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump’s ear getting scratched after getting tackled by the Secret Service was my first thought when I saw the photo.

I don’t think a bullet got close.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I did see a video that postulated he was hit in the head by one of the USSS agents' holsters

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The proof is in that hidden first doctor report that they refused to publish before getting the guy who tried to tell us he was a trim 230 and 6'3" to make the statement.

And the fact that we could see his ear days afterwards without a scratch on it. Given that this is medical in nature, the number of people who even had access to that is small, and right wing media will repeat whatever lie he tells, it suits their narrative best. Regardless of how obviously untrue it is

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

And the fact that we could see his ear days afterwards without a scratch on it.

I hate how easily I can imagine religious folks seeing this as a positive sign, instead of as a suspicious one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This, I can believe. Now, it's not necessarily true it would've mangled his ear if it was a grazing shot, but a graze likely wouldn't have bled quite as much as Donald's wound did. A small laceration from a piece of plastic that had been, uh, acutely accelerated in his direction makes a lot more sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

A small laceration from a piece of plastic that had been, uh, acutely accelerated in his direction makes a lot more sense.

This or getting cut when tackled/ducking really make the most sense and match the injury characteristics the most.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IIRC this was debunked, there's image of the bullet trail going past his ear. There was also no screen nearby that launched shrapnel in his direction iirc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Video of a bullet paint behind his head from the perspective of a the camera doors not prove it hit him. Sorry

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Factcheck showing no images or video of broken glass nearby: https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-rumor-shards-glass-232900180.html

FBI also confirmed the bullet lightly grazed him: https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/30/congress/no-doubt-trump-was-hit-by-bullet-00171861

(Paywalled) NYT analysis also suggests it was a bullet: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/26/us/politics/trump-shooter-bullet-trajectory-ear.html

Independent forensic experts also weighed in stating it's extremely unlikely it wasn't a bullet:

Diaczuk echoed the Times’ findings, pointing out that there were no objects between Crooks and Trump that logically could have created flying debris, and that the podium and seats behind Trump happened to be positioned in such a way that the laws of physics made it unlikely he was hit by a fragment of either, he told The Independent.

Do you have any evidence that shows where the supposed glass shrapnel came from? I understand not liking Trump (I detest him too), but come on. It was an assassination attempt, he was very lightly grazed by the bullet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Because the FBI has never said something to support him before. Their "what else could it have been" is not actual confirmation.

It was either shrapnel from something nearby, or the USSS hip checked him with their holster. He was not struck by a bullet.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

A bullet would have to actually hit the ear for what you describe. But I guess you have a vested interest in not at least trying to understand this.

You understand that the space-time we inhabit, or at least I do, has a very high resolution? The bullet can be any distance at all from the ear as it flies by.

Is this clear?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Yes, I understand that a bullet would have had to actually hit him for it to cause a bullet wound. Which he clearly did not have given how minor it was and quickly it healed. And that he hid the real doctor's report.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He probably wasn't even hit by that. Blood capsules are cheap, probably a trick he learned from his work with the WWE.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I doubt he had those with him. Just in case this happened. He's not that quick a thinker. And he'd never agree to be near live rounds.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's usually the most vile beings that get to live their life to the fullest...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

I don't think that's necessarily true. I've had the great joy to know a few exceptionally content people through the years, and while they might not be yucking it up on a yacht somewhere, I also get the distinct impression that they're all around happier and more at peace than the likes of Musk and Trump are. Folks have raised the hypothesis that the ultra-wealthy are just hoarders but wealth instead of trash, hoping that maybe just this next billion will finally bring them contentment, and it never does. I've come to suspect that that hypothesis holds at least some water.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't want to start

Any blasphemous rumours

But I think that God

Got a sick sense of humour

And when I die

I expect to find him laughing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

ishenrykissingerdead.com

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

and this is why we aim for centre mass

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yep. Even if Donald has been wearing body armor, I'm not sure his 78 year old probably on blood thinners ass would've been able to take it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yea, if that kid would have gone to any form of military basic training MAGA would be gone now. Hell, they may have moved on and become a normal republican populist movement that hated businesses and banks (as the historic norm).

The Tea Party (2008-2009ish) was the first modern populist movement to get mass mind controlled by big money. People were losing their houses in the mortgage crisis, and people were duped into rallying against a mortgage relief program.

The entire relief program was proposed at 700 billion, with 46 billion for mortgage relief ... but republicans got steered and focused at the mortgage relief portion and the Tea Party formed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump would be a martyr and the movement would be 5x worse.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We'll never know for sure, but some evidence against that is that nobody's ever been able to quite emulate his cult of personality. The republicans who tried were just kinda dweebs and dorks trying to act like the popular kid at school, and those who didn't were boring and uninteresting to Republican voters.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

According to Trump himself, he looked down to check his notes right when the shot was fired. It's a rare incident where I believe him.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I honestly don't think the gun was ever aimed at Trump. His "wound" was gone basically overnight.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People behind him were killed. The guy just missed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Like Trump wouldn't be on board with killing his supporters for a photo op.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

But he would never be on board with live ammunition being fired around him, even for a plot. All he cares about is his own orange sack of bones

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

At risk to himself? Even for a trained precision shooter, guaranteeing a miss is still difficult. Gust of wind picks up at just the right time and the bullet goes into Trump.

Then again, it's Trump, and he might be dumb enough to go for it. Provided he can find a shooter who's also dumb enough. Which he can; there's probably plenty of guys that dumb at any given local range.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Meh. Occam's razor applies here, I think. The head is highly vascular, and even small injuries can produce a visually stunning amount of blood. I don't think it was a fake or a conspiracy; sometimes shit just happens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Geriatrics take forever to heal, though, especially when their lifestyle is as atrocious as Trump's.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The cartilage of the ear takes a long time to heal, yet HitlerPig was walking around fully healed within 2 weeks. He also showed no sign of being injured at all, when a glancing shot like that should have mangled his ear at least a little bit. Yet, it looks perfectly fine now, not even the slightest nick or scar.

Occam's Razor means something slightly different when it comes to HitlerPig. In his case, the most nefarious, dishonest, corrupt story is probably the right one. He was never shot, the whole thing was a hoax.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Depends, because I don't think his cartilage was actually damaged. A glancing shot wouldn't have necessarily done any structural damage at all if the angle was shallow enough. I don't think Donald is competent enough to keep a houseplant alive, I have grave doubts that his team would have been able to effectively stage an assassination attempt without bungling it and actually getting Donald killed or something else real bad. I mean, if you need to believe it was a hoax, don't let me get in the way of a good time, I guess, but sometimes shit really does just happen. Source: 15 years on the ambulance.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Iirc, back when it happened, there were people from his highschool target shooting team that said he didn't make the team because he wasn't a good shot.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I rewatched the broadcast to confirm, Trump absolutely inadvertently stepped out of the shot right as the shooter pulled the trigger. Trump went from standing with a hand on the podium, to leaning forward on it as he turned his head to his right.

The shooter brought a laser rangefinder which suggests he was aware of at least basic marksmanship fundamentals like bullet drop from gravity. He also had an AR-15, with a red dot and was laying prone with no visual barriers between him and the dais where Trump was about 130 yards away. Even a budget AR shooting basic af ammo can expect to shoot a 4 inch circle at that distance- plenty enough for a headshot.

Trump survived through dumb luck.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Just did some quick napkin math. At the low end, the .223 has a muzzle velocity of about 900 yards per second, which, at that distance, means that the bullet made it to Donald in roughly 0.14s. at the high end, muzzle velocity is about 1233 yards per second, meaning it cleared the gap in very nearly .1s even. I did a bit of googling, and it looks like human reaction time at the low end is about 200 ms, BUT can be much lower or even a hair premature if the reaction is the result of a trained, anticipatory response. As such, it seems likely that Crooks' reaction time, rather than 0.2s, was much closer to some negligible value, even when considered from the frame of a bullet's travel.

That means that wherever Donald's head was 0.1-0.15s before the infamous bullet photo was taken is probably very close to what Crooks saw when he pulled the trigger.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I used to participate in International Defensive Pistol Association competitions. I was, honestly, terrible. I'd routinely mangle or just do an overall uninspiring job of the up close shots, and I was hardly as smooth and quick as anyone else there. I just didn't have the money to burn through ammo and time at the range like other folks did. One time, we were doing a series of targets at thirty feet and the spirit came over me and I double tapped two of them right in the jugular notch as smooth as you like. Won't claim it as an achievement because I can't even remotely come close to reproducing it, I'm still not that good of a shot, and I wouldn't have believed I was going to do it if you'd told me ahead of time. I can't explain why or how I did it, just, idk, rolled a twenty that time I guess.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I once fired a 22 round through the middle of a polo mint without breaking it from 25m away. I framed that shit because likewise, knew that wasn't happening again. That's part of the fun of the sport as a an amateur, occasionally chance does funny things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Holy crow, I'd have framed it too!

[–] al_Kaholic 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah highschool kids never lie. You should always just take what they said at face value.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

While and head shot is more fatal. He would have been able to land multiple chest shots at that distance. A bullet to the heart would end him, and multiple shots would be difficult to survive.

People forget what a big person Trump is.

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