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I run a small VPS host and rely on PayPal for payments, mainly because (a) most VPS customers pay that way if you aren't AWS or GoDaddy and (b) very good fraud protection. My prior venture had quite a bit of chargebacks from Stripe so it went PP-only also.

My dad told me I should "reduce the processing fees" and inaccurately cited that ChatGPT told him PayPal has 5% fees when it really has 3-3.5% fees (plus 49 cents). Yet he insisted 5% was the charge.

Yes, PayPal sucks but ChatGPT sucks even more. When I was a child he said Toontown would ruin my brain, yet LLMs are ruining his even more.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

LLMs are undoubtedly impressive tech that will get better with time. But to anyone singing their praises too emphatically I say ask it something on a topic you are an expert on; you’ll quickly see how fallible they currently are.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Problem is a lack of expertise with most people. Most people I interact with are generally oblivious to most things, including their careers lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Tbh if they game get them to ask it about that, it fails spectacularly badly, even worse than in general. TV shows and movies it's a bit better on, probably because there are so many episode summaries and reviews online, but if you talk to it long enough and ask varied and specific enough information it'll fail there too.

They may not be an expert at something, but if they have a specific interest or hobby that'll probably work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

LLM's are not AI. Calling it as such says more about the person than the technology. And then I realize, they might be right... /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

calling LLMs ai isnt wrong at all, it's just that sci-fi has made people think ai always means something as smart as a human. heck, the simple logic controlling the monsters in Minecraft is called ai.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Thank you for confirming what I said.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Get off your high horse and use the same definitions as everyone else. Intentionally choosing to use different ones and then acting like everyone else is stupid is incredibly annoying and proves nothing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm sorry, I thought my definition of sarcasm was accurate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

In Dune, thinking machines are banned. Not even calculators are allowed. Complex maths is done by trained savants. I'd argue a calculator is AI, since it's a humanmade device that can extrapolate information from information. That's the definition of intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Are you suggesting LLMs aren’t powering ChatGPT, the AI front in the post is about? Or am I just missing your joke (which is possible?)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's sarcasm. And yes, a joke. Along the same lines as 'Think of your average person, and realize half the population is dumber'.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Guess maybe I fall on the wrong side of that divide. :-)