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This is sad. It sucks. You want to say that violence isn't the answer, but it's easy to see how people hit their breaking point. ICE agents kidnapping people is horrible. McAllen is poor. The people who work in that ICE facility are likely just happy to have a job with benefits that feeds their families.
You had me till the last sentence.
Find a fucking different job
"I was just doing my job" didn't work at Nuremberg, and it shouldn't work here. That's now how committing crimes against humanity works.
Every single person working at these places (or involved in the trafficking of people to foreign prisons) needs to be held to account, just like they did with the Nazis.
Nah. Fuck them.
You don't say that about the IDF soldiers dropping the bombs on the hospital. "They just wanted to pay their rent - they didn't ask to kill orphans" Get the fuck outta here.
You don’t opt in to the IDF, it’s required of all 18 year old Israelis. No one is required to join ICE.
So they're all genocidal, not just a few?
...this doesn't really help your case much
What are you imagining my “case” is? I stated a fact.
Sort of. There are forms of alternative service. Or you could just go to jail instead.
There are proactive steps that separate a forced conscript and a bomb dropper.
My dude. We are well past the point where it is ok to say " Im just doing my job" in the midst of fascism. No it is literally not okay to work for ICE (gestapo) and kidnap people, to support your family. Hell no.
That's not just a job though. It's a Nazi job. You are required to treat people like animals. If you qualify for that job you are disqualified for life.
Judging by your downvotes, it looks like many people here neither know nor care that there is a world of difference between Border Patrol and ICE.
People down voted because they said the people working at these facilities are "just doing their job".
I agree, probably some people did downvote because of the “just working” remark. It also appears that many downvotes are an emotional reaction to feeling empathy for anyone associated with ICE. The problem here is twofold:
The McAllen station isn’t ICE, and commenters here don’t seem to understand - or won’t stop feeling outrage long enough to learn - that the objectives, the methods, and the general principles between ICE and Border Patrol are vastly different. It’s like insisting that Grand Canyon and Everglades are identical because they’re both governed under the national parks system.
Seeing the fediverse slide into Reddit hive mind is cringey. People here used to be more open to respectful discussion. A mention of potential humanity in a reviled federal department wouldn’t have been brigaded. On that note, I appreciate your response.
It is a distinction without a difference at this point.
No. It's like insisting that the SA were just as bad as the SS, even though they're not identical.
I don't see this as hive mind, I see it as people rightfully being overwhelmingly against the outright fascist thuggery happening in their own country.
Border patrol still participates in human trafficking, rape and murder.
Literally does not matter. Both are violently racist organizations.
No. I said this is a very poor area and many people are just trying to survive. Many are likely happy to have any job that allows then to support their families. People think it's only white Republicans doing these jobs. The Rio grande valley is like 85% Latino. As someone else mentioned, border patrol and ice are not the same.
That is how you sound.
They serve different strategic functions but they are of very similar ideation. That being racist cruelty, and keeping America white.
Perfect example of my point.