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No it isn't, you're not required by law to use a turn signal in a turn only lane. If I was giving a driving test I'd fail you for using a turn signal in the turn only lane as it demonstrates you don't know the law.
I was a Driver Examiner in the Province of Ontario.
You wouldn't fail for this, but it is an infraction.
You must ALWAYS SIGNAL YOUR INTENTION.
Also, cite this 'law' you pulled from your ass.
Ah, OK might be a Canadian thing then. There is no law in the US that requires usage of a turn signal in a turn only lane. I didn't pull a law from my ass, you're pulling one from yours, or rather I'm talking about US law and it seems you're talking about Canadian.
No mention of America.
No mention of America.
Are you forgetting that 95% of the world's population lives outside of America?
... and incorrect even in America.
What does False Consensus mean?
It seems you're a shitty driver in every country.
Wrong.
Minnesota (this is a state in the US) traffic code 169.19 Subd. 5 Signal to turn:
A signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given continuously during not less than the last 100 feet traveled by the vehicle before turning. A person whose vehicle is exiting a roundabout is exempt from this subdivision.
I stated there wasn't a law.
Youre wrong in Minnesota.
All the laws I’ve seen say you must signal 100ft before turning and don’t have an exception for turn lanes.
Do you have an example of such an exception?
A law not saying you need to, is not the same as a law saying you need not to.
Wrong.
Minnesota (this is a state in the US) traffic code 169.19 Subd. 5 Signal to turn:
A signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given continuously during not less than the last 100 feet traveled by the vehicle before turning. A person whose vehicle is exiting a roundabout is exempt from this subdivision.
There isn't a federal law on turn signal use that I can find and it's left up to the individual states. Every law I looked at said you have to have a continuous signal before the turn and when turning into a different lane. I did not see any exceptions listed anywhere, including turn lanes.
When turning from a turn lane, to a different lane, that is a change of lane and therefore falls under the law. If you have any other evidence to the contrary or happen to live in a state that I didn't check where that is an exception, I and the others here would love if you'd source that. If you can't, then you're just making shit up and should just take the "L".
The only law in my state that requires usage of turn signals states this:
The key there is "direct course". The direct course in a dedicated turn lane is the turn, so no signal is required. If it's a turn or straight lane it is required as in that case the direct course is straight.
You conveniently left out the rest of the law...
Yes because it's irrelevant. The first clause failing means subsequent clauses don't apply. Because a signal isn't necessary it doesn't matter how far back you don't signal for.
Wow! You're wrong again!
Even in your nonsense "direct course" argument "no person may turn a vehicle from a direct course" until such movement can be made with reasonable safety, and then only after giving an appropriate signal.
That literally means you have to signal when turning from a direct course. The last part, "in the manner hereinafter provided" is inclusive. It means every one of those clauses applies.
You are a great example of why people should be retested regularly.
The clauses apply if the first one does which it doesn't. Since you're never turning from a direct course you don't need to signal in the manner the following clauses describe. Since you're never leaving the direct course, there's no need to signal otherwise you'd need to use your turn signal every time you turn the wheel on your car even if you're just following the road (which is what you're doing in a turn only lane). You need to signal when entering the turn lane, but once in the lane you're just following the lane (the direct course) and therefore don't need to signal.
Wrong again.
Turn signals are required, but not in a turn only lane. The question asked and answered wasn't what's being talked about here. Also it's trivially demonstrable that turn signals are not required "anytime you are changing direction" in your vehicle otherwise you'd be constantly turning them off and on just driving down any random road as it curves back and forth. They're required when you depart one lane for a different one. In a turn only lane you never depart the lane, it just becomes another lane. Finally quoting cops is a terrible defense as cops are per court decisions not actually required to know the law which is super fucked up, but that's an entirely different discussion.
Wrong.
Just going to ignore everything I said that proves you wrong? OK, you do you and keep being wrong, I'll keep driving legally and keep my perfect driving record.
The only good thing about all this I suppose is I learned not needing to use turn signals in turn only lanes is a unique thing to my state, it seems like most other states do require them.
Anyway if all you're going to do is keep saying wrong and re-quote the same debunked statement there's not really anything left to say.
Wrong again. It's like it's intentional.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/traffic/article297574763.html
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/traffic/article292904584.html
https://www.meldonlaw.com/blog/what-is-the-law-in-florida-for-using-turning-signals-when-making-a-turn
https://zwebenlawgroup.com/personal-injury-attorney/what-are-the-laws-in-florida-regarding-turn-signals
https://tampabayfloridalawyers.com/florida-turn-signal-laws
https://www.theticketclinic.com/blog/turn-signal-laws
https://codes.findlaw.com/fl/title-xxiii-motor-vehicles/fl-st-sect-316-155
https://autojusticeattorney.com/failure-to-signal
Cite this 'law'.
What law, that's the point, no law requires usage of a turn signal in a turn only lane. There is no law that requires that and a driving test is testing that you're following the laws. It's the same as if you turned on your turn signal in a straight lane and then didn't change lanes.
So, is there a law or not, or are you simply full of shit?
You can't prove a negative. You cite the law that says you need to use a turn signal in a turn only lane. Or are you full of shit?
Minnesota (this is a state in the US) traffic code 169.19 Subd. 5 Signal to turn:
A signal of intention to turn right or left shall be given continuously during not less than the last 100 feet traveled by the vehicle before turning. A person whose vehicle is exiting a roundabout is exempt from this subdivision.
You've been wrong every time you've said you don't need to signal.