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Which EU law stemming from this process is your favourite?
Oh I don't know... how about banning glyphosate, an incredibly dangerous pesticide, which is now gone from EU produce but still plaguing many countries in the rest of the world? And how about some clean water to go with that salad? Because the Clean Water Directive received major updates as a direct result of collecting 1.80 million signatures.
Glyphosate isn't banned in the EU. From the EU website: "Glyphosate is currently approved as an active substance in the EU until 15 December 2033".
There was a petition to ban it, but the response was "On the first aim, to 'ban glyphosate-based herbicides', the Commission concluded that there are neither scientific nor legal grounds to justify a ban of glyphosate, and will not make a legislative proposal to that effect."
You might mean the Drinking Water Directive, and 1.6 million signatures.
I see some press releases on updates, but I can't find anything outside of government websites saying things have improved. I'd imagine if this was a big deal there'd be news stories on it.
While the EU didn’t enact laws directly due to the petition it did create political interest, and laws, that have improved both issues
It is! It wasn't created because of an online petition!
Most of those resulted in "the laws in place are already good enough" responses. From your links
The EU response to stop vivisection:
The EU response to Save the Bees:
The EU response to Stop Finning:
The entire premise of your comment is absurd, but let's assume for a moment we really do live in a world where a legal process can't be used unless it's successfully been used for widespread change before; what other action do you suggest people should take?
A boycott of the worst companies. I've seen lots of people commenting they're never buying an Ubisoft game again under pretty much every article in relation to them. Perhaps boycotts haven't worked in the past but this seems to have enough support and momentum that it could have a real direct impact. Recently, boycotts have been pretty impactful as the world has stopped buying US products and within the US, conservative groups have influenced many companies with boycott and social media campaigns against companies. It's also something that all supporters globally can participate in rather than everyone just hoping a European law might affect products purchased elsewhere.
The petition was a great way to gauge support, but I feel like people are going all in on its success and when the EU parliament likely issues its "we take consumer protection seriously which is why we already have the best laws in the world and don't need to change anything" statement, people are just going to act defeated. There's going to be a doomer post about how the EU parliament is corrupt and piratesoftware is the devil that gets 1000 upvotes and then that'll be it instead of using the support and momentum in a more direct and impactful way.
There are lots of ways to make a change. It shouldn't be all in on a single petition and that's it. That's not how social and political changes happen.
So your suggestion is instead of any attempt at regulation people should just boycott a company years after they've already given that company their money, despite the fact that you admit n even more ideal circumstances boycotts still do not work?
It's not mutually exclusive. I'd suggest people do as many things as they can.
You mean like all the things in the link OP posted which you scrolled past just to be an ass in the comments?
Maybe I come off wrong in text? I wasn't trying to be an ass. I don't think any of my comments were rude. There's a comment in this thread calling someone a cuck with upvotes. I'd say that's being an ass. I was just trying to be realistic.
But not this apparently.
I've never said don't sign it. I'm saying don't be surprised when the EU declines to change laws. It's probably going to take more than a petition to actually see change.
I'm not an EU citizen so I'm not politically informed enough to answer that.