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I find the quality and variety of discussions on the fediverse to be lower than what I had on reddit. Lemmings have strong preconceived notions and little interest in changing viewpoints from new information. I think I'll be switching back.

Edit: you'll find that most of the comments deny any shortcomings of the culture and go directly to invalidating my opinions via character assassination. If lemmy was a community that actually stood for the ideals which it espouses it would take constructive criticism in the spirit in which it was intended. QED.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I disagree. I feel that on Reddit, the type of users and discussions were mostly toxic and based on popularity. Lemmy is far from perfect, and there are aspects about it that I feel certainly are lacking, but to suggest that it's a bigger echo chamber than reddit, I find hard to believe. But, if you can provide me with some examples that highlight your point of view, I would be interested.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can literally predict the comments on reddit these days before looking. It's the same articles, same top comments, over and over again. You try to be original there and you get down voted. Got to stick to the template and karma can be yours :/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I always hated that about Reddit; the lack of authenticity. I tried to be my genuine self, and always was downvoted for it. It started to feel like maybe somebody took offense and wrote a bot to follow and downvote everything I posted. Yes, I'm paranoid. :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So basically all subreddits are actually sub-subreddits of the subreddit simulator subreddit.

God I hate that that sentence actually parses and is a thing that makes sense in the English language.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love how much more international and diverse lemmy is. I'm American, but I am happier with the fact that lemmy isn't 85%+ Americans like on reddit (not a real statistic). I enjoy seeing more content from different perspectives and nationalities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, as an American why did you choose feddit.de?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was because of their defederation status for Threads as well as the tankie instances. I was originally on lemmy.world, but switched to feddit.de because of .world's Threads federation.

Feddit.de was the only instance I could find defederated from Threads and the tankies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Density of toxic rhetoric is through the roof on lemmy. It rivals what you'd find on bad private forums of yore.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Please provide me examples, because as far as I'm concerned, I'm just not seeing the same level of toxicity you are apparently.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it ain't Tomino it ain't Gundam.

If it ain't Lucas it ain't Star Wars.

If it ain't Roddenberry it ain't Trek.

Importantly if you think Kurtzman is making Trek then you misunderstand the series. Star Trek is about a future where humanity lifts itself fully out of its worst aspects. It shows us what we should aspire to be. Kurtzman just wants to make Starship Troppers without the satire.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice toxic gatekeeping rhetoric there.

This you? 🙂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it gatekeeping to say fan fiction is not canon? Kurtzman's Trek is bad fanfiction with legal cover. I could write some nonsense and slap Star Trek on it and I wouldn't be able to force you to consider it Star Trek. If I had a billion dollars and bought the rights to the name would that change your mind?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Uh, I see the stuff with the politics stuff but... how is their opinion without explanation of Star Trek toxic?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're not Trek

They're not the arbiter of Trek. They have no input on what is and is not real Trek. They can like it and not like it all they want, thats opinion. But it's pretty toxic and shitty to try and claim that because it doesn't fit with your personal views that it isn't real Star Trek.

It is indeed toxic but frankly it's more pathetic piss baby behavior than anything else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's a rhetorical expression that says that the subject goes against the spirit of the franchise. There's no claim of authority in there, and I don't see why you think so.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What subs are you in? I can think of a few that are terrible, so I blocked them, and many more where I don't think I have ever seen more than critical opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm only subbed to freefolk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

One problem I have is that the core design problem of Reddit is the use of user upvotes/downvotes to sort (and either highlight or hide) based on the number. But not only does an opinion unpopular not mean that it's wrong, it's vitally important for any democratic society that we are regularly exposed to viewpoints that differ from our own.

Lemmy doesn't challenge that, and I wish it did.

Tbh I suppose I just want old-school vBulletin forum boards back, but I don't know any general-purpose ones...