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Yea real funny. I hope when it’s coming for you somebody a little further north takes the same joy in your impending doom.
I believe the above poster was merely pointing out the irony of the situation, not saying that it's actually humorous. Florida's politics tend to villify refugees, while the residents themselves may soon become refugees fleeing to other states due to climate change.
There is a lot of people in this state that don’t agree with any of that. That want to do something to mitigate the damage of climate change and are absolutely powerless. Constantly joking about how we are going to get it the worst and we somehow deserve it is gross as fuck, and it’s constantly applauded on these forums. Floridians are people too and if you stopped assuming all of them are red hat rocking dickheads that deserve to be drowned in global catastrophe that would be cool ya know.
This is why I specified Florida politics lean that way, not the residents.
But they still deserve it right?
No one of sound mind would imply that a group of people deserve suffering. No one here is suggesting that.
I mean you aren’t, but the sentiment is all over this thread.
not all the gusanos wear red hats
I'm in Texas, not that far from the coast, and I make these kinds of jokes. I don't move because this is where my immediate family live and I don't want to leave without them. Texans are a great group to make the butt of the jokes. Doesn't mean I think I should be drowned or assume I'm a red-hat maga person.
The state continues to elect dipshits like Desantis, despite the evidence being blazingly obvious they’ll be the first in the line of fire.
What happens next should surprise nobody, and if somebody is surprised they were almost definitely part of the problem and should stay in Florida, if you catch my drift.
No I don’t catch your drift, spell it out plainly for me.
If you continue to keep your eyes closed while walking, and everyone is screaming to tell you to stop... No one will be there to physically stop you from walking, you're on your own journey. Either open your eyes and look around, or don't be mad when you fall off the cliff.
What the fuck are you talking about? I’m one of the idiots trapped in Florida and can see it coming. It’s just shitty to see how people will treat you when devastation comes around. You know Florida is full of refugees that don’t get to vote right?
That took 2 comments of rage-bait bullshit for you to say that?
Like, at no point did you actually say you are a helpless victim in this.
It read like "I have and enjoy MY house on the beautiful coast. Why is everyone going to be so mean to me when the bill comes due?!"
What the fuck are you talking about? I’m just saying joking about not taking in climate refugees because they are from a place you thinks deserves it is fucked.
I mean, you made a lot of aggressive comments and exploded back at commenters before you actually explained your stance/position.
And it all read like "have pity on those beach front home owners when the tides come", as opposed to "yeh, beach front home owners are assholes, I wish they would do something to actually help. Unfortunately the regular population are essentially hostage to ever increasing rent, insurance and food prices making moving anywhere safer more and more difficult each season"
Maybe it's cause it's text.
If you read have pity on the beachfront owners from anything I wrote that’s entirely on you. What I said was if you’re gonna laugh about my death from the same wave that’s coming for you, that I hope somebody further north does the same thing to you. Most people down here are a bad day away from oblivion already. Probably just like where you’re from. For some reason it’s okay to rejoice at Floridians getting ruined though.
I guess I'd take it as a warning, and start planning your departure soon.
You gonna help me pay for it?
The open your eyes part means; start planning now. Shouting and screaming won't do anything to solve the issues you will face in the future. I am sorry you are jn this situation, but is been growing for the last 4 years or so...
So as long as it’s just the poors swept away by the tide it’s cool?
You clearly don't get it: Start PLANNING NOW. I'm not saying fuck poor, or fuck anyone. You seem to understand Florida will be flooding in the next 100 years, that sounds like plenty of time to plan and not be "surprised" when one day your home is no longer insurable
It’s gonna be here way sooner than that, I’m stuck watching it in real time. What you don’t seem to get is people can’t just conjure money out of the sky to do whatever they want. In fact most people are having to work two jobs to maintain a solid 600sqft and be able to afford food. And they can be panhandling if their car breaks down. And it’s about to be illegal to sleep in your car. What I’m saying to all you fine assholes is that not everybody here is sipping margaritas and watching the heat dancers club baby seals on their yacht every morning. A lot of us are watching this bomb go off in real time and it’s really shitty to hear people acting like we deserve it and we’ll be mocked or turned away should we have to leave.
Like this is a wild amount of comments I’ve gotten from people I’m in mostly agreement with, except for the whole not shitting on normal people trapped in a shitty circumstance thing.
And finally I don’t own a home, but most insurance companies have already pulled out of the state or jacked up their rates to unaffordable levels.
I've never owned a home, but when times get tough I always know what to do: Pick up my things and move. Yeah its not entirely possible a great swath of the human population, but thats not something I personally need to plan for now is it? No one deserves any of climate change to happen, but until people actually stand up and do something about it, it will not get better.
What do you mean trapped?
I mean I can’t relocate? I’m not chained to a radiator but thanks.
Bro I've met migrants who showed up with worn out shoes and a backpack. I'm not trying to be mean but most people mean won't not can't, you could drop everything and move to another country and get there largely by foot working odd jobs on the way. It being a smart idea is another thing entirely.
You know nothing about me or my situation and I didn’t ask for your input at all.
Clearly that's why I asked a question rather than make an assumption.
I dunno talking about your migrant acquaintance moving with nothing but rags on his feet and a tattered knapsack sounds like you’re about to give me some variation of pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Maybe I was hasty, but all the same I don’t need tips on moving.
Sorry the conservative bigots who deny climate change and pretend the water isn't rising are going to get wet.
There. That's my sympathetic statement for them. But, no amount of warnings or even pleading with them can ever cause conservatives to do the right thing. The more we implore them to recognize the science, the more likely they are to drown just to upset us.
I, for one, support a conservative's right to drown exactly as they insist. We should be supporting their decisions for once. Let them face the tides bravely. We should be cheering them on as they sink beneath the waves. 👏 Good job, y'all! Good job! 👏
As for the innocent non-conservatives, we should be rescuing them and getting them to normal states just to get them away from the conservatives. Leave the rest behind.
It's a common figure of speech. It doesn't mean actually funny.