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As long as Biden makes it past the vote and wins, he could drop dead a planck length past the finish line and we'd still have mission accomplished.
Let's be real, at this point Biden is a placeholder candidate above which you should see the nametag "literally just not Donald Trump again."
Especially after that one Supreme Court ruling, I cannot stress enough that you are either voting for Biden or supporting an American fall into dictatorship.
This isn't just about moral backbone in standing up for those who can't anymore, it's about survival. We beat them back or we may as well accept that the number of us who are gonna live to see the full depth of outcomes will be significantly less than the statistical average for most elections.
Vote.
Yup, unite or die moment for the democracy, Joe has my vote, my time, my small donations.
Besides, America has:
On substance, Biden has been a great president. On substance, Trump is a lying fascist who talks about being a dictator on day 1.
Be a substance voter, not an optics voter.
I'll only add that it's not just Biden. Trump is a patsy here.
Every D, any D, every election at all levels. For all time.
If it's a D primary I'll vote policies and take a hard look at the candidates. That's it.
100% agreed! Well said my friend.
Either candidate is voting for genocide, and they're the only viable options. So your comment is pointless.
No, ya see, the guy whose signature policy was "ban Muslims from entering the USA" is going to be an ally to the Palestinians!
Ahhh duck off, if it comes to it, I'll support 1 genocide over 2,3, or 10, if that's the choice I have. I chose my solution in that trolley problem.
It is kinda dumb we can't trust each other to all just vote third party. I'll shut up because there are a million reasons it won't work and giving it wind is the last thing I want. But this system is so fucked that we either get placeholder or fascist. Yay, American democracy.
Change the voting system
Then
Change the representation system
How are you going to change the voting system when the people who have the power to change the voting system are the ones who benefit from the system as-is?
The problem is first-past-the-post always leads to strategic voting, which leads to eliminating 3rd parties. And, once you have only 2 viable parties, they benefit immensely from FPTP, so they're unlikely to ever get rid of it.
Unfortunately, game theory was invented in the 1940s, and the USA was invented in the 1770s, so the founding fathers couldn't make use of game theory to work out a good electoral system. Oh, and having to compromise with the slave-holding states and devising an electoral system that gave them power turns out to have had bad effects down the line. Who knew!?
You're right. If the dems split their vote and Trump wins he will definitely behave in a calm and moral fashion. It's not like Trump is a vindictive and shortsighted tyrant. He's an ethical, scholarly gentleman. He never behaves impulsively or in a cruel and mean spirited way. And if there's one thing Trump is passionate about, it's protecting the weak and downtrodden. He believes in the equality of all nations, and doesn't consider any of them to be shit holes. And he's definitely not recently on record saying that Israel should just go in and "finish the job".
This would only make sense if Trump was less pro-Israel than Biden. He's not. He wants Netanyahu to "finish the job" exterminating Palestinians. I'm sorry neither candidate is great on your single-issue voting mentality, but staying home or voting Trump will literally make life worse for both Palestinians and Ukrainians. (As well as Americans.)
If you vote for anyone other than the Dems in this election, you're as good as voting for Trump, which is voting for genocide and losing your democracy. I fucking hate what's happening in Palestine. I'm also realistic enough to see that you'll lose your country if you don't protect it.
That’s a long way of saying you don’t understand politics.
I continue to be astounded by this argument. In what world would trump be less genocidey? Yeah I get it fuck Biden, I don't like it either, yes it would be great if we had better candidates. We don't though, we still need to do more work on that front, it sucks, but for fuck sake don't risk letting trump win. Voting for Biden isn't voting for genocide it's voting against it getting even worse than it already is
They know this. It’s a .ml account. Trust me. They know.
Sorry, new Lemmy refugee from reddit here.... .ml?
Essentially a propaganda network of edgy teenaged “socialists” and “communists” that pretend to give a shit about things they don’t understand.
And… welcome to your new home!
Ah! Got it, thanks!
Wait… How is the Angry Creamsicle any better than Biden on the Israel issues? Didn’t Baby Fingers Trump move the American Embassy to Jerusalem (and proclaimed it the capital of Israel)?
I’d love to understand why Biden is somehow worse than Dangerous Donald with respect to their views of Israel and Palestine? As a laymen, I only see two sides of the same coin. And frankly, that is not enough motivation for me to allow Adolf Twitler to be president a second time.
He's just a troll, the reddit trash made its way here.
Cause the other option totally isn't...
Voting third party is voting for the other guy, btw. (System sucks but we can't change it overnight and a full shift of the democrat voters is a prisoners dilemma...I'll let you figure out why that is bad)
That's a short way of saying you're a dipshit.
Who are you recommending instead?
What a shit take.
STFU