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Exactly. This wasn't an attempt on your run of the mill republican shitbag. This man is a real fucking threat and so are all of his supporters/followers.

I wouldn’t say strange, so much as disappointing.

We feel like we have relationships with entertainers, and most of the time we feel they represent - well, something other than corporate fence sitting. Being reminded they’re a product more than a person really sucks the air out of the room.

I imagine personal safety is also a major factor. Concert security is a joke. KG making that comments paints a target on both of their backs.

They are domestic terrorists. Don't underestimate them.

Still, disappointing that JB has taken such a stance that seems to be neutral on hate and violence.

That's a good point. I just couldn't imagine doing that to my long time friend.

Basically this. Even if they wanted to continue the tour, Gass just massively increased the chance of another mass shooting by some nut job out to get revenge. If that had really happened, it would've completely sunk everyone involved and people would be claiming that they were the ones that invited the catastrophe.

That's... pretty fair. It's easy to say things online, but Gass just made things very hard for concert security. How hard would it be for a right winger to sneak a gun into a concert and get close to the stage?

That's a fair take. I've been very frustrated with the respectability politics this week and it might be a bit unfair to him, as he isn't a political figure, but an entertainer who didn't initially choose to say anything. I can't say I'd throw my boy under the bus like that, but I'm not him.

This is a strange take to me. Nervous laughter is, famously, a thing. You can simultaneously be surprised by something that was said, not actually support it, but still laugh. Especially when you're in the middle of a show, literally on a stage, in front of thousands of people.

You must be another individual that'll be safe under the reich.

Well said. Jack Black is the fun guy making fun music. He's obviously not pro-Trump but he's a professional - I don't blame him for not wanting to be associated with comments like that for the time being.

I'm a little disappointed with the phrasing of the announcement but there's unfortunately a high chance Trump will be president and he's pretty outspoken about getting rid of his critics.

This isn't anything new. There's a whole lot of people on the Fediverse who throw the word Fascist around willy nilly but who will happily make use of Fascist rethoric in regards to those who they see as political enemies.

They seem to think that the bad thing about Fascism isn't the authoritarianism, political violence, censorship, etc, but the fact it's a "right wing" government behind those - those would all be perfectly justifiable means to an end in the name of a left wing movement.

I see this happening more in american politics than over here, and I think it's in part a lack of knowledge of history, but also never having had an actual fascist regime in the country's recent history. My parents were tortured by the political police. I have a bunch of family who lived under an actual Fascist regime, and colleagues from other countries with a recent history similar to mine, and I notice that people in general, even in the far left, are way more careful about how they use the word Fascist. American internet "leftists" - which I put in quotes because many don't seem to actually hold any left wing views - love LARPing about living under fascism and that somehow excusing every thing they claim Fascism is bad for - against their political enemies.

I guess we'll see how you feel when trumps supreme court sanctioned death squads of deputized gravy seals are murdering and raping in your neighborhood.