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[–] [email protected] 69 points 8 months ago (4 children)

My money is still on Harris to be the final candidate. Get ready.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I am all for a women president, but Harris is just a Hilary repeat ... Please dont.

AOC would be amazing but I know shes "too progressive"for the boomers... What ever the fuck that means

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The thought is that her years as a prosecutor will come back to bite her. Plus a lot of people seem to have a problem with her personality.

I haven't watched her enough to form an opinion but those are the takes I've heard most often.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

Why is she Hillary repeat?

They don't know. Watch... they won't have specific factual reasons, only vague generalizations. Betcha.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Speaking, presentation, likability.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

So well spoken female that people just don't like for some reason?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
  1. Chosen because of her gender before her merit. Evidence: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/15/biden-woman-vice-president-131309

  2. She ran for president previously and lost terribly because people didn’t like her. She is not well spoken because clearly people didn’t resonate with her, women included.

  3. When she loses, and I assure you she will, it’s not because she’s a woman. It all comes down to her track record and how charismatic she is, both which are bad.

  4. Let’s not forget she backs Biden so things that the left is against, such as her and Biden sending bombs to Israel will hurt her terribly.

  5. I’m probably voting for her, but it leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth stomaching it. I’m able to accept that I won’t have a perfect candidate but most Americans aren’t these days so it’s a loss for her, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Have you actually listened to her on the issues or do you just know what the media has been spouting? I was surprised to hear her very articulate and reasonable stances from her directly rather than through a progressive media filter. There's a mismatch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

To each their own, but when I watched her in the debate years back I only remember her as one of the people I explicitly didn't like lol. Whatever, there's some good points in this thread and I dearly hope they're right.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

I do not like Hillary and I do not like Harris. I don't however agree with harris being a Hilary repeat, I think she has a way better shot than Biden did

[–] iz_ok 5 points 8 months ago

I like AOC's passion but a lot of people believe she's too progressive. She's young and can probably be more beneficial to her constituents and the party where she is for a few more years.

Harris should have a good shot, just for name recognition, her stance on abortion, and being part of the incumbent administration. Maybe she's a more likable candidate then she was four years ago. The Democrats will have to give her a chance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Progressives aren't going to get a candidate we like this year. And you know what, that's ok. I wasn't going to vote for Genocide Joe, but I'll do everything in my power to put in office Harris, Newsom, Whitmer, or whoever else milquetoast neolib gets the establishment nod, if only to prevent Trump from taking office.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I wasn't going to vote for Genocide Joe

Thanks for letting us know you'd rather have an autocratic despot run this country than Biden

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

AOC is legally too young to run still.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

She'll be old enough by January 20th so she can run.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Actually old enough before the election. I was under that misapprehension, as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I see this bullshit literally every day. Read up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Intentional misinformation spread because they fear her

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Dont understand how this myth still persists, since it is immediately corrected every time I've seen someone claim it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Too progressive = union busting?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

She’ll get absolutely demoed by Trump. I can’t wait for Dems to have to vote for a racist cop though, peak irony.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (5 children)

One of the things Harris really has going for her is the fact that she would absolutely demolish Trump in a debate. She would not let him off the hook for his lies and would be able to counter his BS with reality.

Which is why Trump will never agree to debate her.

If Harris does become first name on the ticket, they better put Jesus Himself Christ as her running mate.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

I don't like Harris at all, but I'd love to see her in a debate with trump.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If Harris does become first name on the ticket, they better put Jesus Himself Christ as her running mate.

GOP: Holy shit, why didn't we think of that?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

They probably did think of it but then rejected it when they found out how progressive Jesus is

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What makes you think she could do that? Honest question. The few speeches I heard from her she performed poorly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

She was a prosecutor. Trump is a rambling tank of lies. She is smart enough to predict his bullshit and have responses in the can. I would love to see someone call Trump a liar to his face constantly for an hour.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

She's great on attack, she just gets tongue tied on defense sometimes. Before the primary (where she had some good attacks), she was most known for questioning people in the senate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You cannot be serious. She's as bad at public speaking as Biden during the last debate. She absolutely would not stand a chance in a debate with Trump.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I wondered what the H was for

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Anyone will get demoed (?) by drumpf and the GOP.

They'll probably claim whoever gets the nomination wasn't born in the US, is part of a satanic paedophilic cabal, etc etc etc.

So that bit doesn't matter. Get someone who ideally inspires the swing states and hesitant voters.

Then there'll be a violent uprising with the support of the supreme court, but again there's nothing you can do to prevent that now.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Having the first US woman president would be cool and have a ~~first~~ woman vice-president as well, why not?

E: Whoops, you already had a first vp, Sorry, Americans.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yeah it would be cool but we're talking about the American voter

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Haven't you just had the first woman vice-president?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Oh yeah, I forgot the US did that.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Running a woman for president is risky because of boomers, but the majority of them are voting Trump anyway. Running two women on the ticket I think would be a mistake. There are a lot of progressives that are still misogynist. As much as I'd love to see Harris/AOC I think they need to pick a man for VP.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

They kind have to... IMO... You know, the whole DEI thing.