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Noa Argamani, an Israeli woman freed from Hamas captivity in Gaza in June, said on Friday that her injuries were caused by an Israeli air strike during her rescue operation, not by a Hamas attack.

Speaking to diplomats from G7 countries in Tokyo on Wednesday, Argamani detailed her ordeal after she was taken captive by Palestinian armed groups during the 7 October attack. However, two days later, she issued a statement on Instagram, saying that some of her remarks had been misquoted and taken out of context.

Contrary to some Israeli media reports, Argamani clarified that she was not beaten or had her hair shaved by Palestinian fighters.

"[Hamas members] did not hit me while I was in captivity, nor did they cut my hair; I was injured by the collapse of a wall caused by an [Israeli] Air Force pilot," she added.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Any idea why Hamas doesn't execute hostages? Not to sound callous or anything. Just curious if you know if their religion forbids it or something

[–] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Because if Hamas executed the hostages, they’d have even less bargaining power than they already do. Unfortunately, Netanyahu doesn’t seem to care much about the hostages anyway.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If the hostages are released he'll need a whole new reason to continue bombing!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

His only reason is that it keeps him in power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Except that they don't. The ultimate goal of the war according to Netanyahu is to "destroy Hamas", no elaboration on what that means tho. Securing the hostages is just an optional mission and he made that very clear in the past.

Hamas would have never gotten that strong in the first place if Netanyahu weren't appalled by the PLO's stance of a two country solution and had not worked actively against them. He does not want to accept a state of Palestine, holding true to the old Likud manifesto "Between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty."

It's funny how that stance is acceptable when it's Israel that threatens and enacts genocide.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

look the hostages were weak, they don't deserve to live, just like the victims of the holocaust.

don't look at me like that, it was the Israeli Minister of national security that said this shit, can't I go quoting the only democracy in the m.east's government?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago

That would defeat the whole point of taking hostages in the first place.

Seems they didn't count on Israel being willing to kill hostages.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago

They claim that it does.

A Hamas guard who killed an Israeli hostage acted "in revenge" and against instructions after he heard news that his two children had been killed in an Israeli strike, a spokesperson for the group's armed wing said on Thursday.

"The (Hamas) soldier assigned as a guard acted in a retaliatory manner, against instructions, after he received information that his two children were martyred in one of the massacres conducted by the enemy," Abu Ubaida said on Telegram.

"The incident doesn't represent our ethics and the instructions of our religion in dealing with captives. We will reinforce the instructions," he added.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

If they wanted to kill the hostages, they would have just killed them instead of taking them hostage. The whole point of a hostage is that it increases your power at the negotiating table. It gives you leverage. The hostage is something to trade in exchange for concessions, or the threat of harm to force the opponent’s cooperation. Neither of those work if the hostage has been killed or harmed, because any bargaining power you would have had from holding them goes right out the window as soon as the hostage is killed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Because they aren't AQ. They're actually looking to negotiate things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Keeping in mind that I'm not an expert on Islam by any metric, I don't think there's any religious prohibitions, because executing people was something that ISIS was notorious for. I'll also note that this tendency was one of the reasons everyone else in the region dogpiled them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

ISIS has nothing to do with Islam. They is the Israel of Islam. Zionism is not Judaism. ISIS is not Islam. Almost everything ISIS does is strictly forbidden in the Quran.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Fundamentalists picking and choosing which rules apply and which individuals are considered valid targets isn't a good way to understand the tenets of a religion. Which of course means Hamas may also pick and choose, but just because ISIS did something doesn't mean it's the norm.